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Post by Ward on Mar 2, 2015 18:06:32 GMT -6
hold on to your hats, boys and girls...  [/u] •2 independent, genuine Neve 1073 transformer-coupled microphone preamplier / EQ circuits, in a single 2U 19" rack mount enclosure • Exclusive Neve Marinair transformers used on each input and output stage. • Convenient connections for Mic, Line & DI inputs on front of unit, with switchable mic/line input connections on the rear of the unit • Switchable +48v Phantom Power, Hi/Lo impedence, -20dB pad and DI ground lift on the input stage • Switchable Phase, and EQ in/out • Insert Send and Return loop feature allows external equipment to be connected easily to the 1073DPX audio chain, such as mono/stereo limiter/compressors; • Pre-EQ insert send/return - a line level send is available from the mic?-?pre?amp output stage and a return just before the EQ stage • Post-EQ insert send/return - a line level output send is available from the post EQ stage and a return just before the main output stage • Independent channel output level controls • 7-stage LED signal level meters for each channel - can show mic/line/DI input-stage level, EQ-stage level or output-stage level up to +24dB • Headphone output with adjustable volume control, can listen to channel 1, channel 2 or both channels combined • External multi-voltage PSU • Optional digital I/O card - available mid-2015, price TBA - can be easily retro-fitted to existing units |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 2, 2015 18:08:24 GMT -6
I smell credit cards melting !
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 2, 2015 18:27:06 GMT -6
I thought I read $4999...I'll pass.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Mar 2, 2015 19:13:34 GMT -6
I thought I read $4999...I'll pass. I figured more than that when I first saw it. If I go that much for a pair, it will be 1081's not these. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 2, 2015 19:22:46 GMT -6
vintageking.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/13906/ $4795 Yeah - I guess you're right...that's a pretty good price considering it's EQ too...didn't really take that into account. That's $2400 a channel though...yikes. How are these different than the modules (CH & CV) that are $3400? Do they cut corners in this and the 1073N?
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Post by unit7 on Mar 3, 2015 0:39:58 GMT -6
"Exclusive Neve Marinair™ transformers" caught my attention.
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Post by Ward on Mar 3, 2015 6:37:16 GMT -6
$4800 seems like a lot in this day and age of Warm, Retro and CAPI giving us nearly perfect clones of previously expensive machinery... but there's something in the sound of the AMS-Neve stuff that, well...
Just sounds 'Spendy'[/u]. It's got that expensive sound to it that makes you wonder if it's built out of unobtainium.
Definitely going on my short list!
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Post by jimwilliams on Mar 3, 2015 9:47:36 GMT -6
New? I thought this was an early 1970's product?
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Mar 3, 2015 9:56:36 GMT -6
i'm absolutely content with the AML ez1073 kits, thank you very much
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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 10, 2020 13:13:24 GMT -6
Anyone rocking one of these? At $2995 it’s not too badly priced.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 10, 2020 13:22:32 GMT -6
Yeah I've got one in the back of my $5000 Kia Sorrento. Doubles the value. People in the back seat need a good stereo pair for their Ke$ha Blu Rays.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 10, 2020 13:26:48 GMT -6
Anyone rocking one of these? At $2995 it’s not too badly priced. I think you should  Seriously, though, I thought the Neve 1073LB was great. |
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Post by bricejchandler on Jun 10, 2020 14:01:35 GMT -6
Anyone rocking one of these? At $2995 it’s not too badly priced. They’re great! |
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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 14, 2020 21:18:13 GMT -6
It’s definitely on the top of my current want list. I’m curious how it compares to the more traditional rack units. I believe they changed from “point to point” to an easier way to manufacture so they could make it this affordable.
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Post by bricejchandler on Jun 15, 2020 5:06:34 GMT -6
It’s definitely on the top of my current want list. I’m curious how it compares to the more traditional rack units. I believe they changed from “point to point” to an easier way to manufacture so they could make it this affordable. It's really a great unit. The added functionality is awesome. The point to point units sound fabulous too, I've never compared them side by side but If I had to get one I'd probably get the DPX as it's more than half the price. I can't imagine anybody being unhappy with The DPX, I've used it next to the 1073 DPA and the LB and they pretty much all sounded the same to me so if you've used those, you'll know the sound. I personally like the AMS sound better compared to the clones, BAE, Heritage and all but that's just me. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 15, 2020 20:56:08 GMT -6
It’s definitely on the top of my current want list. I’m curious how it compares to the more traditional rack units. I believe they changed from “point to point” to an easier way to manufacture so they could make it this affordable. I was reading on the AxeFX forum someone saying how there’s always a new flavor that people obsess about for a few months - the IT amp. Then ultimately, they always go back to Fender and Marshall. It’s the same in Pro Audio honestly. I’m gravitating more and more towards the brands that have a history and have been doing it forever. Now - there are always the few that are the exception to the rule. The small guy that puts their heads down and does their own thing exceptionally - or does it better than the original. (CAPI) But man - they’re against the odds these days. Neve is doing good stuff, AMS or not. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 8, 2020 6:17:58 GMT -6
Well, it took a bit, but mine should arrive today. Probably won't have time to really play with it until this weekend, but I'm excited.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 8, 2020 10:06:11 GMT -6
It’s definitely on the top of my current want list. I’m curious how it compares to the more traditional rack units. I believe they changed from “point to point” to an easier way to manufacture so they could make it this affordable. I was reading on the AxeFX forum someone saying how there’s always a new flavor that people obsess about for a few months - the IT amp. Then ultimately, they always go back to Fender and Marshall. It’s the same in Pro Audio honestly. I’m gravitating more and more towards the brands that have a history and have been doing it forever. Now - there are always the few that are the exception to the rule. The small guy that puts their heads down and does their own thing exceptionally - or does it better than the original. (CAPI) But man - they’re against the odds these days. Neve is doing good stuff, AMS or not. I'm completely with you on that. I would have loved to look at the BAEs too, but they are twice the price. I'm never disappointed when I hear the Neve pieces. In fact every time I hear them next to the budget contenders, like Golden Age Premier or Aurora, I'm always reminded why I go for the more established names. I could debate with the BAE, but it's more a personal choice at that point; more midrange girth or more highs and lows? I liked the Stam a lot when I tried it, and at that price it would be worth it, but I don't have a year to wait. Next I'm going to mod my TNC ACMP-84s and see if they really can compare once the circuit is fixed, capacitors and misc parts are upgraded, and real Carnhills are installed. That will give me (4) Neve Channel strips to work with for recording and mixing. Not to mention my Dan Alexander 1272 preamp with original Marinairs. It's a mojo box. I've got the start of my own little Neve console style setup.  |
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 8, 2020 17:48:29 GMT -6
It’s here. Preliminary thoughts are the Neve sounds really lovely! Clearer than my Dan Alexander. Full and warm compared the the ACMP-84s. It has a lovely low end and open top end. I’ll get into this in greater detail this weekend. Waiting for a few cables so I can rack it.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 9, 2020 22:01:08 GMT -6
I did a quick test back to back with the two channels on my Dan Alexander, which do not really match each other, a channel of the Neve 1073 DPX, and a one from the better of my two TNC ACMP-84s. Using my FLEA 49. My thoughts: DA channel two is the darkest and most weighty of the bunch. DA channel one and the Neve are similar with a more weight in the DA and more clarity and punch on the Neve. The ACMP-84 is definitely of the same family, but it thinner and less three dimensional.
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Post by NoTomorrow on Jul 9, 2020 22:35:45 GMT -6
Cool.... thx for the comparison.
Timely for me, as I was just about to pull the trigger on a 1073spx. I had the 500 series 1073LB and wasn't totally crazy about it and sold it awhile back. Lately I was thinking the rack unit might sound a little better.
But this comparison makes me want the Dan Alexander. Especially channel 1.
The Neve sounds great as well, but I prefer that Dan Alexander. Of course, there aren't any to be found anywhere now that I have some cash. Dammit
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 10, 2020 5:14:24 GMT -6
Yeah, Dan Alexander channel one will probably be the preamp we use while recording all of our solo vocals for the Christmas Album. Actually I’ve been using the Channel Two in conjunction with my FleA 49 on most of my recordings and a bunch of my videos. My Right Here Waiting video as well. I did have some mixing issues with recording my wife on Channel one and myself on Channel Two on our recent in studio concert we released at the beginning of COVID. That’s what really stirred the purchase. The two channels were a bit too different. My voice required a huge boost on Channel two to match Emily Channel one. We used out beta 58s on that video. I have been using Channel one with my U67 and U87ai. In fact I was recently hired to record a Christian song using my U87ai and I used Channel one.... I am not a fan of this mix. It’s too dry for the vocal I provided. All that said, the Neve will be used for all of our duet work. Emily honed her chops on stage and we have done a few recordings simultaneously. We are hoping to do that for the Duets for the album. I also imagine the Neve and ACMP-84s will get some use in the mixing phase as outboard EQs. Outboard EQ is so much easier to dial in. Frankly I think the Neve will sit directly in a mix with very little tweaking. That will be my next test. That said I’m Two preamps (and a few of EQs) away from my goal of an 8 input Neve setup. I’ll be keeping my eyes open for another Dan Alexander myself. I’ve also had my eye on this piece from Vintage Audio, which is Revive Audio’s gear brand. Their M72 is a 1272 design with real Carnhills. If I really like the sound of the ACMP-84s after they mod them I would be really tempted to give this a try. I’ve asked about a demo, but received no response. Maybe after I’m an official client. www.reviveaudio.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=101&product_id=335Anyway, those are my thoughts. |
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Post by NoTomorrow on Jul 12, 2020 0:38:19 GMT -6
Interesting... thanks for the examples and info, Vincent.
I can definitely hear the difference on the duet clearly,... how channel 2 is considerably darker. A useful thing in a sense for matching different mics but as you say unworkable as a stereo unit.
And channel 2 sounds great with that Flea 49.
Channel 1 of the Dan Alexander has just the right balance between lows and highs and is seemingly devoid of any detectable resonances on any of these examples.
That's actually what I hear with the Neve.... it's kind of a resonant peak somewhere between 700hz-3k that just bothers me.... I checked it on 3 different headphones and my monitors and it bugged me every time.
Might just be my own ears.
I can see getting tons of mileage out of the Neve though for the line inputs and EQ. Still a great sound, I just like the Dan Alexander better.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 15, 2020 5:07:11 GMT -6
So the more I play around with the Neve the more I’m enjoying it. It’s not the Dan Alexander, but it’s still got a bit of that sound. The big thing is reminding myself not to go to my usual EQ presets and to look for new setting that work with these slightly brighter sounding preamps. It also looks really nice and is built really well. http://instagram.com/p/CCgUIXlhRhd |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jul 15, 2020 6:53:31 GMT -6
I did a quick test back to back with the two channels on my Dan Alexander, which do not really match each other, a channel of the Neve 1073 DPX, and a one from the better of my two TNC ACMP-84s. Using my FLEA 49. My thoughts: DA channel two is the darkest and most weighty of the bunch. DA channel one and the Neve are similar with a more weight in the DA and more clarity and punch on the Neve. The ACMP-84 is definitely of the same family, but it thinner and less three dimensional.
Based on your description, I bet the BAE would be similar to your DA. The BAE was fat and rounded up top to my ears. Real thick sounding. |
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