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Post by Quint on Jul 1, 2022 20:39:11 GMT -6
What's your favorite transient designer type of plugin these days?
I suppose it doesn't have to be specifically marketed to perform as a transient designer type of plugin as long as it can still excel at transient designer type of duties.
However, a nice thing about THE Transient Designer, or others like it, is that it's so easy to use, so I'm interested in plugins that can pull off these sort of duties with relative ease.
Of course, it needs to sound good doing it. I'm sure Dan will have something to say about this, so I'll be interested to get his two cents, as he always seems to be up on which compressor plugins can actually react fast enough without causing issues.
Also, where's the UAD Transient Designer rank these days? I guess I should ask about that. I could actually get it on sale right now, as we speak.
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Post by seawell on Jul 1, 2022 20:47:35 GMT -6
My favorite lately is the Boz Transgressor 2. You can EQ the transient and the decay separately which I find quite useful.
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Post by deaconblues on Jul 1, 2022 21:45:25 GMT -6
That boz one looks great; I need to try it out. I was going to demo this new one from Klevgrand over the weekend. klevgrand.com/products/fosfat It’s got a few pretty great looking sound design options in it that look similar to some complicated Ableton effect chains I built. Would much prefer a single plugin to do the same work. I’ll report back after I demo… ITB, I usually go with the Softube Transient Shaper or UAD SPL. I also like the Native Instruments Transient Master, but only because it’s the first one I ever got, and you can make it hiccup some weird sounds if you stack them. Mostly a sound design / experimental percussion tool. OTB, I really love the elysia nvelope 500. For whatever reason, the plugin version doesn’t sound right to me. The bonus eq mode on the 500 sounds killer for tilt-like adjustments.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2022 22:54:41 GMT -6
Sonnox Oxford Transmod and Envolution
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Post by tasteliketape on Jul 2, 2022 5:49:09 GMT -6
The Boz Is on sale Jrr shop 29$ . When added to cart was 26$
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Post by Quint on Jul 2, 2022 6:13:03 GMT -6
My favorite lately is the Boz Transgressor 2. You can EQ the transient and the decay separately which I find quite useful. I own the Transgressor as well as the Softube Transient Shaper. They both have an eq component, but work in different ways. I do like how they're both relative easy to use too. I'm mostly just curious about what is considered the best in 2022. So far I'm this thread, it seems like I'm still mostly seeing recommendations for some usual suspects. Which is totally fine.
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Post by Quint on Jul 2, 2022 6:21:52 GMT -6
That boz one looks great; I need to try it out. I was going to demo this new one from Klevgrand over the weekend. klevgrand.com/products/fosfat It’s got a few pretty great looking sound design options in it that look similar to some complicated Ableton effect chains I built. Would much prefer a single plugin to do the same work. I’ll report back after I demo… ITB, I usually go with the Softube Transient Shaper or UAD SPL. I also like the Native Instruments Transient Master, but only because it’s the first one I ever got, and you can make it hiccup some weird sounds if you stack them. Mostly a sound design / experimental percussion tool. OTB, I really love the elysia nvelope 500. For whatever reason, the plugin version doesn’t sound right to me. The bonus eq mode on the 500 sounds killer for tilt-like adjustments. I'm curious about the Klevgrand and will look into this more.
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Post by Quint on Jul 2, 2022 6:24:10 GMT -6
Sonnox Oxford Transmod and Envolution What do you prefer about the Sonnox stuff? The Transmod hasn't been on my radar really, but I have sort of given thought to the Envolution from time to time. And it is on UAD, which would be an added bonus for me.
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Post by trakworxmastering on Jul 2, 2022 9:36:43 GMT -6
SplitEQ,
Spiff.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 2, 2022 9:47:19 GMT -6
I like SPL Transient Designer (Plugin Alliance) and sometimes Sonnox Transmod, as it can be way more extreme and harder.
I guess last time I broke out the Izotope Mutliband transient thingy because the drums I was give were so badly recorded, it took a lot of work.
They're all a little different, yeah, these are the ones I've chosen.
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Post by Quint on Jul 3, 2022 11:22:55 GMT -6
I'll check those out. Oeksound, in general, seems to make good stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 12:19:55 GMT -6
Sonnox Oxford Transmod and Envolution What do you prefer about the Sonnox stuff? The Transmod hasn't been on my radar really, but I have sort of given thought to the Envolution from time to time. And it is on UAD, which would be an added bonus for me. It’s cleaner tonally and can have way more drastic effects for problem solving. the transmod works a little differently than a traditional spl transient designer, which kills high frequency detail because it’s like a compressor with pretty much. infinite sidechain distortion. transient shapers like a compressor split the audio into audio path (up/Down) and rectified sidechain (all up). Then the sidechain is used to generate a dc control voltage for the voltage controlled amplifier to multiply the audio signal by. Unlike a compressor, there’s no threshold or ratio controls but just smoothing filter, ie attack and release. in a compressor, attack and release are just one crazy complex low pass filter to slow down the rate of change. In a transient designer there are two in a row. One with the attack knob and instant release and then the other with instant attack and the release knob. Then it multiplies the audio path by the difference between them with a lot of program dependencies and smoothing to the filters. But still… we all know what happens when you set a compressor to instant attack or release. Thus a transient designer deadens the sound a bit compared to slow attack for overshoots on a compressor. transmod has a more control over the overshoots and can get cleaner or crazier distorted. Read the manual and Paul Frindle posts for tips. Envolution is more of a traditional transient shaper with the Sonnox harmonic cleanliness and optional distortion but it is far more controllable and better sounding than the spl brainworx plug. It’s not as open up top as the Transmod. A lot of the newer Sonnox stuff (from suppressor on) doesn’t sound as good as the old Paul Frindle Oxford plugs and isn’t as low cpu. a More subtle traditional one I like is the transient knob in Klanghelm sdrr2 but it’s often too subtle while Transmod can get crazy overshoots that get overdriven out by it or something down the line for extra crispyness
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Post by 80hz on Jul 4, 2022 0:55:01 GMT -6
Big vote for Newfangled Punctuate. Incredible multi-band transient shaper.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 4, 2022 7:23:05 GMT -6
Big vote for Newfangled Punctuate. Incredible multi-band transient shaper.
I use that one on mix bus all the time, since it's part of Elevate, fantastic!
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Post by svart on Jul 4, 2022 9:58:59 GMT -6
1176. Or Arouser.
1176 can add considerable transients if you quicken the attack a little and really nail the release down.
Arouser has a transient adjustment that really pops.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 4, 2022 10:33:06 GMT -6
1176. Or Arouser. 1176 can add considerable transients if you quicken the attack a little and really nail the release down. Arouser has a transient adjustment that really pops. love those too. and those little DBX ones can also be good for this!
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Post by seawell on Jul 4, 2022 11:52:01 GMT -6
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Post by bossanova on Jul 4, 2022 15:01:17 GMT -6
Neutron 3…just because I own it and it’s there, and I like the way the analyzer shows the transient info. I don’t use it enough to really need anything else.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 4, 2022 15:07:03 GMT -6
Neutron 3…just because I own it and it’s there, and I like the way the analyzer shows the transient info. I don’t use it enough to really need anything else.
I love Izotope for that. A lot of companies kind of have these portfolios of "Everything you need!!!" But then most of it is just terrible.
The really impressive thing of Izotope is they have "everything you need" and most of it actually sounds pretty damn good.
Yes you can exceed them in specialty cases, or whatever, but they're a great all-round company. For my money, probably exceeding Fab Filter. For my taste and dollars anyway.
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Post by deaconblues on Jul 4, 2022 22:28:19 GMT -6
That boz one looks great; I need to try it out. I was going to demo this new one from Klevgrand over the weekend. klevgrand.com/products/fosfat It’s got a few pretty great looking sound design options in it that look similar to some complicated Ableton effect chains I built. Would much prefer a single plugin to do the same work. I’ll report back after I demo… ITB, I usually go with the Softube Transient Shaper or UAD SPL. I also like the Native Instruments Transient Master, but only because it’s the first one I ever got, and you can make it hiccup some weird sounds if you stack them. Mostly a sound design / experimental percussion tool. OTB, I really love the elysia nvelope 500. For whatever reason, the plugin version doesn’t sound right to me. The bonus eq mode on the 500 sounds killer for tilt-like adjustments. I'm curious about the Klevgrand and will look into this more. Turns out, Fosfat's not really a transient designer...they call it a transient fertilizer, and that kinda makes sense. You can add sub bass or filtered noise to your transients -- the attack and release has more to do with the synthesized sounds you are adding. The nice part is that you can zone in on the target range for whatever you're adding. I used it today across a bunch of drum loops passed to me by a friend that weren't normal drums, but instead a whole big pile of crazy industrial metal and clanging sounds. Since the different loops were made with different sounds I used one instance on the "kick" and gave them a consistent bass note -- I also very easily automated the sub bass frequency on one loop to make it intermingle with the rest of the arrangement in a more musical way. I then added some snare "fizz" to the mids and gave it a little bit of release which created a consistent "snare" sound across the different loops. Six very different loops ended up sounding like a very cohesive (and complicated) kit. Neat trick and very easy to use! With pitch drops available for the bass synth part, I can imagine it would come in handy if you were handed some overly flat drum recordings that needed tonal bounce added back in. For a dull snare, it'd take 2 seconds tops. Only complaint / wish: It'd be nice if there were two available frequency ranges. I ended up just using two instances to make the "kick" and "snare". For the intro price, it'll definitely save me a lot of time. -- And thanks 80hz and Guitar for reminding me about Punctuate. I've been really happy with Elevate and Equivocate since I got the bundle last month and had totally forgotten to play with the transient shaping separate from Elevate. The spectral stuff is extremely powerful.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 5, 2022 7:01:11 GMT -6
Yeah I always forget to use the separate plugins from elevate! That was probably a mistake since I could have used Punctuate recently, oh well next time!
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Post by bossanova on Jul 5, 2022 20:09:22 GMT -6
Neutron 3…just because I own it and it’s there, and I like the way the analyzer shows the transient info. I don’t use it enough to really need anything else.
I love Izotope for that. A lot of companies kind of have these portfolios of "Everything you need!!!" But then most of it is just terrible.
The really impressive thing of Izotope is they have "everything you need" and most of it actually sounds pretty damn good.
Yes you can exceed them in specialty cases, or whatever, but they're a great all-round company. For my money, probably exceeding Fab Filter. For my taste and dollars anyway.
Definitely. I’m really happy that I went in on all 3 Advanced versions when they were selling them for $150. Tonal Balance and Ozone get the most use for the mastering, saturation, and bus tools, but Neutron has the transient shaper and masking EQ, and Nectar has a chorus that is nice for the 80s Harmonizer effect. The only reason why I don’t use more of the bread and butter processors in there is because Slick EQ, Kotelnikov, etc, are already integrated into my work flow and I can get results very fast there.
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Post by howie on Jul 5, 2022 22:32:55 GMT -6
Neutron 3…just because I own it and it’s there, and I like the way the analyzer shows the transient info. I don’t use it enough to really need anything else.
I love Izotope for that. A lot of companies kind of have these portfolios of "Everything you need!!!" But then most of it is just terrible.
The really impressive thing of Izotope is they have "everything you need" and most of it actually sounds pretty damn good.
Yes you can exceed them in specialty cases, or whatever, but they're a great all-round company. For my money, probably exceeding Fab Filter. For my taste and dollars anyway.
I use a lot of iZotope stuff. Neutron/ Nektar/Ozone... I gotten used to using those channel strips. (I don't mess much with their transient designers though)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2022 7:14:35 GMT -6
i use the one free with cubase now and again, i think it's called transient shaper ? A little goes a long way for me.
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Post by Quint on Jul 6, 2022 7:23:21 GMT -6
I love Izotope for that. A lot of companies kind of have these portfolios of "Everything you need!!!" But then most of it is just terrible.
The really impressive thing of Izotope is they have "everything you need" and most of it actually sounds pretty damn good.
Yes you can exceed them in specialty cases, or whatever, but they're a great all-round company. For my money, probably exceeding Fab Filter. For my taste and dollars anyway.
Definitely. I’m really happy that I went in on all 3 Advanced versions when they were selling them for $150. Tonal Balance and Ozone get the most use for the mastering, saturation, and bus tools, but Neutron has the transient shaper and masking EQ, and Nectar has a chorus that is nice for the 80s Harmonizer effect. The only reason why I don’t use more of the bread and butter processors in there is because Slick EQ, Kotelnikov, etc, are already integrated into my work flow and I can get results very fast there. So do you (or anyone else reading this) feel like those TDR plugins like Kotelnikov can do just as a good a job as a dedicated transient designer type of plugin? Also, even if they can do as good a job, part of my original inquiry also had to do with ease of use. I like how transient designer types of plugins have a simple interface with basically two knobs. That ease of use is worth something to me, and the reason why I was interested in those types of plugins specifically.
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