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Post by schmalzy on Apr 6, 2022 20:37:24 GMT -6
schmalzy , what didn't you like about Studio One? It just felt like nothing agreed with me. An artist asked me to sit in on a rehearsal to help them tweak their songs and get a good-sounding rehearsal room demo. They had S1 on their computer so I just went with it knowing that we'd be recording, punching, and slicing stuff up a bit but not doing anything too in depth. So I spent a bit of time with it over the course of a few days. Nothing went smoothly. ...and then one of the guys in the band I was with who had been using it for a couple years sat down and moved through the program about as clunkily (I'm sure that isn't actually a word) as I did. So then I took back over and we got through the process with few hiccups but without a lot of ease. I'm fairly able to sit down at a new piece of software and get moving relatively quickly. I've spent a lot of time in audio software (and even more time in various video and motion graphics softwares before I went full time in the studio) and I can generally get my bearings quickly. My experience in S1 just didn't go that way. I'm sure I could dedicate some time and learn to think about things in the way it wants me to think but my experience with it was super unnatural and strained.
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Post by prene1 on Apr 6, 2022 22:37:29 GMT -6
Reaper user here.
I own all the daws.
Keep running back to reaper.
Lightweight. GUI is bland so I can FOCUS.
Hella efficient and run AA plugs like a champ.
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Post by plinker on Apr 8, 2022 7:27:28 GMT -6
I started with Logic way back, then went to Reaper for many years...never could get the hang of it. Takes and comping didn't work with my brain. However, I respect "indie" aspect of it, and the licensing options are excellent.
Bought the new M1 and decided to try Logic Pro just for the complementary hardware/software benefit.
Wow! I forgot how easy it could (should) be. It's also fast as lightening on the M1! The "quick help" that watches over my mouse is a bonus as I find my wings.
Now, if I could just get my fingers to un-learn the Reaper shortcuts...
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Post by Guitar on Apr 8, 2022 10:04:26 GMT -6
Reaper, Davinci Resolve, EasyEDA, basically "free" software that's "professional!" Incredible. Audio, video, electronics design. What a time to be alive.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2022 13:23:44 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Apr 8, 2022 14:54:04 GMT -6
What am I even looking at? Mine doesn't look like that when I do punches and edits.
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Post by notneeson on Apr 8, 2022 14:58:21 GMT -6
Hats off to anyone who can switch DAW. I am too stuck in my ways.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Apr 8, 2022 15:50:12 GMT -6
Real drum comping and punches in Reaper quickly turn into Windows 3.1 digital vomit What in the world? This looks nothing like my Reaper sessions with tons of comps and punches
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Apr 8, 2022 16:35:14 GMT -6
Real drum comping and punches in Reaper quickly turn into Windows 3.1 digital vomit Unless you did 128 takes of drums, there something is wrong with that picture and I'm quite interested how it got to that point. It looks insane Edit: I see..... All the drum mics are on 1 track. Any DAW would struggle displaying that. Its much more common to split them out to their own track and group/folder the drums for editing...... The other option is just display one take at a time. You still have 8 audio files displaying on one track though. Edit 2: surely you are taking the piss with that screenshot. BTW I am a devout Cubase 'lanes' guy who is not a big fan of reaper takes system.
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Post by svart on Apr 8, 2022 19:46:17 GMT -6
Real drum comping and punches in Reaper quickly turn into Windows 3.1 digital vomit Unless you did 128 takes of drums, there something is wrong with that picture and I'm quite interested how it got to that point. It looks insane Edit: I see..... All the drum mics are on 1 track. Any DAW would struggle displaying that. Its much more common to split them out to their own track and group/folder the drums for editing...... The other option is just display one take at a time. You still have 8 audio files displaying on one track though. Edit 2: surely you are taking the piss with that screenshot. BTW I am a devout Cubase 'lanes' guy who is not a big fan of reaper takes system. Reaper has lanes too..
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Apr 9, 2022 3:16:14 GMT -6
Unless you did 128 takes of drums, there something is wrong with that picture and I'm quite interested how it got to that point. It looks insane Edit: I see..... All the drum mics are on 1 track. Any DAW would struggle displaying that. Its much more common to split them out to their own track and group/folder the drums for editing...... The other option is just display one take at a time. You still have 8 audio files displaying on one track though. Edit 2: surely you are taking the piss with that screenshot. BTW I am a devout Cubase 'lanes' guy who is not a big fan of reaper takes system. Reaper has lanes too.. I'm aware, but the work flow is different. Even studio one doesn't function quite like cubase.
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Post by gwlee7 on Apr 9, 2022 7:36:36 GMT -6
Hats off to anyone who can switch DAW. I am too stuck in my ways. When I was putting everything together, studio one was suggested to me and came loaded on my computer. I know nothing else, and can’t be bothered to learn anything else.
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Post by thehightenor on Apr 9, 2022 7:44:55 GMT -6
I use Nuendo. I've been using it for a couple decades. Once every year, I try Reaper again. I get utterly confused on how to do basic functions and after a while, I give up. There is so much I just take for granted in Nuendo that it surprises me when I can't do similar things in Reaper as quickly. I do want to like it and use it, but it just isn't intuitive. I end up having to watch a lot of videos to understand the mindset of the developers. Like what for instance? Not trying to fight or anything, I just don't understand how folks get confused by reaper. It seems about the same difficulty as any other DAW to me. Even basic stuff felt cryptic - at least it was for me. I've been using DAW's since they first appeared on the scene so it's not a lack of experience with software. I quit Logic when Apple bought Emagic out and I moved to Cubase. I'd been a Logic "power" user for so many years that I worried about switching to Cubase but I found I was able to learn Cubase without any reference to the manual - it's an incredibly easy app to learn - very, very predictable. When I wanted something to be somewhere it was there as I'd hoped and expected. Now perhaps it was just a case that the developers at Steinberg think along the same lines as I do and that the developers of Reaper have an approach that just "clicks" with you - without doubt this must be the answer. But for me, I found Reaper utterly frustrating, a huge cognitive overload and I just gave up trying to learn it. That said, I can appreciate it's highly effective software and certainly has a very nice GUI.
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Post by christopher on Apr 9, 2022 9:17:13 GMT -6
It’s not just you, the developers at Reaper have their own weird idea how defaults should be. I’ve tried to get a lot of people into it, nobody has been able to figure it out. Only recently have I considered how much I now customize to get it to standard DAW flow. The defaults have moved towards a cleaner look and acid loop and beat editing over the years. Then they do things like make tracks with no pan knob to look less cluttered. And then they add having 2 FX bins, one for tracking /one for mixing. And dock the mixer, so screen real estate shrinks.
So now you’d have to learn to right click the track, find the right option in a giant menu that lets you choose different track layout. Then happen to know which track layout is the good one. Most of us switch to older GUI’s, I learned on Reaper 3 and 4 guis, I think I use 5 gui the most now
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Post by ml on Apr 9, 2022 9:53:50 GMT -6
The only downside of Reaper is most people use pro-tools so you can’t send them your session or vice versa. I don’t find it difficult to use id just say it’s different. You’re not locked in by the developer. There’s multiple ways to do things so I guess if you don’t like that it could be overwhelming. I think it’s really good for songwriting and Ideas. It’s quick to get moving if you have some nice templates set up. I’d say it’s definitely worth a try, since the trial doesn’t expire.
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Post by yewtreemagic on Apr 9, 2022 17:38:21 GMT -6
I've been working exclusively with Reaper for about 10 years now, and love it to bits, although as others have said it does take some getting used to (I first looked at it in 2007, but stuck with Cubase for some years after that until I began to find that bloated, especially since I preferred to choose my own 3rd party plug-ins rather than rely on all the Cubase bundled ones). Cubase seems to be created by a large team, which would explain why sometimes different parts of it can clash, whereas Reaper has much smaller/tighter development that (in my opinion anyway) can respond more quickly to any problems that arise - in my experience sometimes an acknowledged bug in Cubase would take over a year to be resolved via an update. I just love Reaper's small footprint (still only a 15MB download) and its low CPU overheads that let me run loads of software plug-ins/instruments without worrying about audio glitches. The only times I've ever had stability problems with it has proven to be due to 3rd party plug-ins, particularly those that require a lot of RAM, and after doing a bit of research on how to minimise/avoid such problems I ended up writing a feature for Sound On Sound magazine some years back with some suitable Reaper settings to avoid most such problems - haven't had any crashes since. www.soundonsound.com/techniques/project-recoveryHope it helps someone! Martin
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Post by svart on Apr 9, 2022 18:52:22 GMT -6
The only downside of Reaper is most people use pro-tools so you can’t send them your session or vice versa. I don’t find it difficult to use id just say it’s different. You’re not locked in by the developer. There’s multiple ways to do things so I guess if you don’t like that it could be overwhelming. I think it’s really good for songwriting and Ideas. It’s quick to get moving if you have some nice templates set up. I’d say it’s definitely worth a try, since the trial doesn’t expire. Consolidation solves all problems been daws
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Post by yewtreemagic on Apr 10, 2022 6:04:47 GMT -6
Oh, and like a few others here I once fell foul of Reaper's default 'cleverness' in altering the tempo of an imported audio file to match that of the project. A guitarist friend of ours had sent a full-length take to use as a the basis for a new track, I imported it, added synths, bass, drums, wrote a string arrangement for it, mixing and mastered it and sent it back for his approval. He loved it (thankfully), but did ask why the song was at 90bpm when he'd played it against a metronome at 140bpm. Whoops! All's well that ends well, but you only make a mistake like that once - I now have Reaper's 'match tempo' function switch off by default! Martin
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