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Feb 26, 2022 7:00:14 GMT -6
Post by bluegrassdan on Feb 26, 2022 7:00:14 GMT -6
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Post by indiehouse on Feb 26, 2022 7:40:49 GMT -6
Dag. I should cash in on my pair. Sequentially numbered, pristine condition, with non-original leather cases.
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Feb 26, 2022 8:07:12 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 26, 2022 8:07:12 GMT -6
These are the ones I linked to in classified : crazy money .
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Feb 26, 2022 8:27:49 GMT -6
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Post by bluegrassdan on Feb 26, 2022 8:27:49 GMT -6
35 bids to get them there. I fear a bubble.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 26, 2022 8:47:12 GMT -6
seems people are sitting on more money than cents !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2022 9:59:22 GMT -6
Screw it. We have good cheaper SDCs now with decent headroom (unlike Oktava) from Shure, Beyer, and Gefell. The hype is for older darker mics to trash em with metallic grungy processing
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Feb 26, 2022 11:21:06 GMT -6
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Post by tasteliketape on Feb 26, 2022 11:21:06 GMT -6
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Post by EmRR on Feb 26, 2022 11:41:28 GMT -6
Hmmm, yeah I'd trade those for 4-8 of several other things if I had them.
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Post by phdamage on Feb 26, 2022 21:45:29 GMT -6
Screw it. We have good cheaper SDCs now with decent headroom (unlike Oktava) from Shure, Beyer, and Gefell. The hype is for older darker mics to trash em with metallic grungy processing MK-012s give you a headroom problem?! Curious where, truly. I’ve used it on snare batter for hard hitters on keplinger, bell bronze, you name it. I’ve used them on an SVT thru and 8x10, right on the grill with no problems.
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Feb 26, 2022 22:48:38 GMT -6
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Post by EmRR on Feb 26, 2022 22:48:38 GMT -6
Screw it. We have good cheaper SDCs now with decent headroom (unlike Oktava) from Shure, Beyer, and Gefell. The hype is for older darker mics to trash em with metallic grungy processing MK-012s give you a headroom problem?! Curious where, truly. I’ve used it on snare batter for hard hitters on keplinger, bell bronze, you name it. I’ve used them on an SVT thru and 8x10, right on the grill with no problems. Any preamp with a high ratio input transformer. Sometimes a 20 db pad isn’t enough when then input trans is +26 before any active stage.
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Post by ericn on Feb 26, 2022 22:53:48 GMT -6
Love the 84, love that mic, it was the bargain of classic mics. Note put a huge ass emphasis on the WAS because that’s just insane. In my mind, a very strange place indeed, my 7 Sony SDC’s that I paid far, far less than a single 84 at these prices is worth just went up x84 in value.
The thing I should keep my mouth shut about is while the fashionable classics are selling for, not just asking for insane prices the under rated classics are not selling , not asking but selling for insane money. No I will not post n public examples! I mean I’m not stupid, I might want to buy some cool gear!
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Feb 26, 2022 23:02:52 GMT -6
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Post by EmRR on Feb 26, 2022 23:02:52 GMT -6
Neuheiser could do themselves a big favor by releasing a Neumann branded and flavored SDC free field cardioid. It doesn’t have to be a km84 reissue. The Senn MKH40 was already that, but it’s only the Senn flavor. Both are great, and not really interchangeable.
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Feb 27, 2022 9:03:10 GMT -6
Post by drbill on Feb 27, 2022 9:03:10 GMT -6
The KM84 has been the bargain of vintage mics for....forever. Now, the price is catching up to the legend it seems. For a matched pair of consecutive serial number mics with all the goodies - that does not seem out of the range of reasonable to me. Sure I'd rather pay $1200 apiece, but that price seems in-line for vintage gear in 2022. Consider what U47's / U87's are going for these days..... And the 47's have a ticking time bomb tube. The KM84 is arguably it's equivalent in SDC format. Still a bargain I believe.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 27, 2022 13:05:07 GMT -6
I'd just buy a pair of Soyuz 0-13 FET's and be happy. I've used the KM84 a lot on my last album. It sounded great, but the Soyuz fits into the same sonic area, and sounds as if they gave a KM84 steroids and now it has much more gain and less noise. They're clearly from the same family. I could see maybe $1500, maybe even a little more for a nice condition 84, but I think that's already at a diminishing returns level considering how many great mics there are now. That is unless you absolutely HAVE to have it
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Post by jeremygillespie on Feb 27, 2022 13:10:35 GMT -6
How do we all feel about purchasing a Soyuz in the current environment? Not trying to be political at all and not looking at that side of it. Purely - how easy will it be to get these things fixed or serviced in the future?
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Post by jmoose on Feb 27, 2022 14:48:21 GMT -6
How do we all feel about purchasing a Soyuz in the current environment? Not trying to be political at all and not looking at that side of it. Purely - how easy will it be to get these things fixed or serviced in the future? Its a microphone not a rocket ship. The usual suspects can service anything... and doesn't Soyuz have an office in the USA as well? Plus how many well made mics work for decades without a problem? I wouldn't be concerned at all. The 84's..? I've been doing this production thing since the mid 90s. Have worked in some really excellent studios along the way and honestly don't think I've ever, once, come across a KM84. Never. Now the 184? I've put those up countless times for all sorts of things. Its the only version I know and I like 'em. The "vintage" or ehhh... "old gear" thing has gotten crazy. I'm not in the market for $5k vintage mics... I'm in the music business. Can't afford that stuff. Couple weeks ago I was at my friends shop and he has a Sony C37A. Bought it maybe 15 years ago? We were trying to figure it out since I helped him track one down... think he paid $3k which was a lotta money at the time. Actually had the option to buy a pair but he was thinking $6000 on a pair of mics? That's nuts! Now its worth $10k +/- 3dB and 'ya just gotta think about the value of that microphone vs other components. At the same time, its one of those things that once its gone its gone. Sell it and you'll never buy it back. All those studios with crazy mic collections? Piles of 47's and KM54's etc? Most of those shops bought 'em way back when a U67 was a $2500 mic. And it wasn't all that long ago either...
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Post by the other mark williams on Feb 27, 2022 15:03:37 GMT -6
How do we all feel about purchasing a Soyuz in the current environment? Not trying to be political at all and not looking at that side of it. Purely - how easy will it be to get these things fixed or serviced in the future? I think that's a very understandable question to be asking, Jeremy.
I just sent an email to my contact there asking the question, and I'll reply here as soon as I hear anything.
Of course, who knows in the days/weeks/months ahead if any future sanctions would affect something like this. With them having a USA base in Los Angeles, I would think it less likely, but I do know all manufacturing and serious repair work is done in Russia at the Tula factory, so who knows for sure.
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Post by javamad on Feb 27, 2022 18:07:14 GMT -6
Lets just hope the Soyuz does not get classified as a Russian listening device!
I jest!! (my Irish dark humour)
If anything I think we should be trying to help ordinary people outside the industrial military complex of both Russia and Ukraine.
Lets hope the madness ends soon.
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Post by EmRR on Feb 27, 2022 18:51:00 GMT -6
The 84's..? I've been doing this production thing since the mid 90s. Have worked in some really excellent studios along the way and honestly don't think I've ever, once, come across a KM84. Never. Probably not unusual. The only two people I know who have them around here are people who bought them new in the 70's or early 80's. I'm not in the market for $5k vintage mics... I'm in the music business. Can't afford that stuff. All those studios with crazy mic collections? Piles of 47's and KM54's etc? Most of those shops bought 'em way back when a U67 was a $2500 mic. And it wasn't all that long ago either... Yes and yes. I remember a friend getting $2K5 for his pristine U67 on ebay.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 27, 2022 18:57:08 GMT -6
I do think that a moratorium on receiving any goods produced in Russia is a good idea until things hopefully settle. I know the folks from Soyuz are mainly hard working people who probably hate what is going on right now.
I don't know for certain, but I think the man behind Soyuz, David Arthur Brown isn't a Russian native. He's a great guy. I'm sure this is a very difficult thing for him, and I wish him well.
I have some friends in Ukraine and hope they survive the terrifying onslaught.
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Post by Ward on Feb 27, 2022 19:37:19 GMT -6
I do think that a moratorium on receiving any goods produced in Russia is a good idea until things hopefully settle. I know the folks from Soyuz are mainly hard working people who probably hate what is going on right now. I don't know for certain, but I think the man behind Soyuz, David Arthur Brown isn't a Russian native. He's a great guy. I'm sure this is a very difficult thing for him, and I wish him well. I have some friends in Ukraine and hope they survive the terrifying onslaught. I wish and pray for peace for all of them. And sincerely hope all is well with Soyuz RU and US.
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Post by drbill on Feb 27, 2022 20:11:53 GMT -6
The 84's..? I've been doing this production thing since the mid 90s. Have worked in some really excellent studios along the way and honestly don't think I've ever, once, come across a KM84. Never. Probably not unusual. The only two people I know who have them around here are people who bought them new in the 70's or early 80's. Weird. maybe its a west coast vs east coast thing. I can't remember being in any pro studio (not home studio) that didn't have a handful of KM84's. They are ubiquitous out here.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Feb 27, 2022 22:42:24 GMT -6
I do think that a moratorium on receiving any goods produced in Russia is a good idea until things hopefully settle. I hope they settle as well, but I completely disagree with this statement.
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Feb 28, 2022 11:37:48 GMT -6
Post by Bat Lanyard on Feb 28, 2022 11:37:48 GMT -6
And just like that, overnight, Soyuz removed from Sweetwater. I assume it's related but who knows for sure.
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Post by Ward on Feb 28, 2022 12:59:32 GMT -6
And just like that, overnight, Soyuz removed from Sweetwater. I assume it's related but who knows for sure. WOW! (and this thread comes around full circle)
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