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Post by sparkey on Apr 15, 2021 12:37:28 GMT -6
what do people think of the neumann U87? still a good mic? or there are better options
for workhorse mic?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 13:13:34 GMT -6
What other mics do you have? And what are you recording?
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Post by Ward on Apr 15, 2021 13:44:30 GMT -6
what do people think of the neumann U87? still a good mic? or there are better options for workhorse mic? There are two microphones that work on absolutely everything. 1. A pre 1987 Neumann U87i and 2. a brass capsule AKG C414. Defacto industry standards to this day. The U87 is the top choice for value, utility and application. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 14:34:19 GMT -6
Yes. Now the u87ai has some issues but the U87 is a classic workhorse ldc
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Post by sparkey on Apr 15, 2021 15:15:47 GMT -6
not really worth it? wanted something for female vocals, acoustic and electric guitars,
was looking at the U47 fet also.
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 15, 2021 15:31:59 GMT -6
U87, even and u87ai, will be more more versatile than a u47FET.
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Post by michaelcleary on Apr 15, 2021 15:51:10 GMT -6
not really worth it? wanted something for female vocals, acoustic and electric guitars, was looking at the U47 fet also. All the u87 versions are worth exploring. I have a U87ai Rhodium and U67 reissue and they can handle most anything I want to track. Of course we have other dynamics, ribbons and small diaphragm condensers to play with but you can’t go wrong with a u87. |
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Post by ericn on Apr 15, 2021 17:25:13 GMT -6
The U87 even in modern AI trim is pretty much the de facto industry standard vocal mic, but is it the right mic? That is a question you are the only one who answer and only by trying a bunch of mics.
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Post by sparkey on Apr 15, 2021 17:39:45 GMT -6
what is the the u87 rhodium?
have a heiserman u47 tube, Manley silver, area r84A, pair sandhill 6011A
pair of schoeps mk2 and mk4,
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 18:07:11 GMT -6
You didn't say what other mics you have. If you've got others, what's wrong with them? A U87 is a great mic, but we're pretty good at spending your money for you. There are excellent mics for less money (and some will be better for your application than a U87) and you might find your needs better served by a small selection rather than a single one.
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Post by rowmat on Apr 15, 2021 18:09:36 GMT -6
A Neumann U77 is even better if you can find one.
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Post by chessparov on Apr 15, 2021 18:54:19 GMT -6
Having a good relationship with a local studio, that has a U87... Is one way to save some $$.
I'm fortunate that one of my best friends,
has one, as a backup. (He also has a very nice Project Studio)
So either of these situations, can free up $$, to get/experiment with other vocal microphones.
I discovered other "winners" on my voice that way. From under $100, topping out at $1250.
BTW if the OP is pursuing outside business IMHO, and wants to do their own vocal tracking... Start witha nice/used U87ai. I just read someone getting a new one from an European dealer for around $2200 US. Not sure how that works.
Chris
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Post by hadaja on Apr 15, 2021 19:16:37 GMT -6
A Neumann U77 is even better if you can find one. I think i want to try one of those. |
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Post by rowmat on Apr 15, 2021 19:26:54 GMT -6
A Neumann U77 is even better if you can find one. I think i want to try one of those.  |
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Post by michaelcleary on Apr 15, 2021 21:28:49 GMT -6
what is the the u87 rhodium? have a heiserman u47 tube, Manley silver, area r84A, pair sandhill 6011A pair of schoeps mk2 and mk4, The Rhodium version was an anniversary release where they only made a limited quantity. Rhodium is the most reflective metal on earth.  |
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Post by chessparov on Apr 15, 2021 21:31:57 GMT -6
Other than Metallica.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 7:00:04 GMT -6
The Rhodium version was an anniversary release where they only made a limited quantity. Rhodium is the most reflective metal on earth. View AttachmentI saw one at a trade show after they announced it. I thought it was ugly and would probably be distracting if you put it in front of somebody. |
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Post by Ward on Apr 16, 2021 8:45:46 GMT -6
A Neumann U77 is even better if you can find one. Stop teasing. |
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Post by drbill on Apr 16, 2021 8:46:54 GMT -6
The U87 is a desert island mic. As long as you've got P48 you can record anything with it and it will sound good to great. Much more useful than a FET47 IMO.
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Post by drbill on Apr 16, 2021 8:48:57 GMT -6
A Neumann U77 is even better if you can find one. Stop teasing. No kidding. After decades in the LA studios, I've never even seen or heard of one being mentioned until rowmat here mentioned his.  I think you can scratch that off the list unless you happen to accidentally stumble across one - in which case you should probably immediately buy it. |
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Post by chessparov on Apr 16, 2021 15:59:23 GMT -6
I had one. I traded it for a bunch of TLM103's. Chris |
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Post by Guitar on Apr 17, 2021 5:53:56 GMT -6
I think a U87 would be good in a minimalist microphone collection, as the "good mic." Or a U67.
I can think of two bands, one with each type of microphone, that used them on "everything" on their records, rather than a large variety.
Personally, I find the K67 / K87 capsule to be one of the most versatile sounds I have heard, working on many sources.
But no, I've never owned one due to the price. To me, that's the main knock against them. Maybe find a used one.
Have a look at the Serrano 87, on the RGO threads archive, it might suit your needs for a bit less cash, get to a similar place.
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Post by gevermil on Apr 17, 2021 8:07:37 GMT -6
I have a 81' u87 and a pair of km84s and they work well on almost everything . Im still searching for the wow moment
on my voice though . trying to get a u67
in my hands , maybe a straight trade
for the others .
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Post by chessparov on Apr 17, 2021 9:14:21 GMT -6
FWIW the Bock Soundelux U99, is comparable to the mighty U67 (on me).
Streets around $2600.
What's interesting is that although I have the same capsule in my FET U195, the two models sound "different enough" to be complementary.
Chris
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Post by Ward on Apr 17, 2021 9:28:32 GMT -6
I have a 81' u87 and a pair of km84s and they work well on almost everything . Im still searching for the wow moment on my voice though . trying to get a u67 in my hands , maybe a straight trade for the others . What are some of the 'wow factor' things you're heard? For instance, mine is Sting's vocal on 10 Sumner's Tales. Every vocal is amazing. |
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