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Post by lpedrum on Apr 15, 2020 15:00:30 GMT -6
Mine is Roger Hawkins on the Percy Sledge track Take Time To Know Her. It has the perfect balance of woodiness and clarity. It's also an amazing crash ride, so all Roger does is lay the shank of the stick into the cymbal when he needs a crash. (a jazz technique for you non-drummers out there) It's most likely the same ride cymbal he played on When A Man Loves A Woman, but I'm choosing this track because it's slightly more audible. I'm searching to find out if the cymbal still exists. As gear goes there is none more REAL!
What's your favorite example of a ride cymbal in pop or rock?
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Post by jamiesego on Apr 15, 2020 15:26:51 GMT -6
I'll ask around and see if anyone knows what it was. I've had one of Roger's snares in the studio before. I know someone who has a lot of his old gear.
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Post by kevinnyc on Apr 15, 2020 15:32:33 GMT -6
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Post by EmRR on Apr 15, 2020 15:46:16 GMT -6
It’d probably be a 1969 pink floyd bootleg. Really.
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Post by damoongo on Apr 15, 2020 16:38:10 GMT -6
Al Jackson Jr on the intro to Al Green's "Let's Stay Together" is pretty amazing. He always used it sparingly, and usually up near the bell. Otherwise, I think all my favorite ride cymbals are in the jazz world (where you can actually hear them!).
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Post by lpedrum on Apr 15, 2020 17:22:13 GMT -6
Al Jackson Jr on the intro to Al Green's "Let's Stay Together" is pretty amazing. He always used it sparingly, and usually up near the bell. Otherwise, I think all my favorite ride cymbals are in the jazz world (where you can actually hear them!). Yeah, Tony Williams etc. Can't argue with that. But that's why I stated the question as I did. I'm curious to hear tracks I might not know about, or be reminded again of others. |
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Post by lpedrum on Apr 15, 2020 17:23:57 GMT -6
It’d probably be a 1969 pink floyd bootleg. Really. I'm not too hip to all things Floyd. Did he use an especially nice ride? |
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Post by EmRR on Apr 15, 2020 18:41:17 GMT -6
It’d probably be a 1969 pink floyd bootleg. Really. I'm not too hip to all things Floyd. Did he use an especially nice ride? Probably. Dunno. He has a very specific touch and it drives a lot of the material. |
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Post by notneeson on Apr 15, 2020 19:17:17 GMT -6
I'm not too hip to all things Floyd. Did he use an especially nice ride? Probably. Dunno. He has a very specific touch and it drives a lot of the material. Pink Floyd came to mind for me as well, and I’m not a big fan or anything. |
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Post by lpedrum on Apr 15, 2020 19:20:11 GMT -6
An update on the Roger Hawkins ride cymbal: I have a mutual friend who contacted him. He texted her back saying he still owns it.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 16, 2020 7:09:27 GMT -6
Any John Bonham track from the first 2 LP's. Those cymbals sound amazing.
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Post by woofhead on Apr 16, 2020 8:16:50 GMT -6
Any John Bonham track from the first 2 LP's. Those cymbals sound amazing. Yeah! Was listening last night to try to pick an example to put here but couldn't decide! |
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Post by sean on Apr 16, 2020 9:09:21 GMT -6
When I think prominent ride cymbal, I think Bill Stevenson (Descendents, All, Big Black, The Lemonheads)
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Post by Omicron9 on Apr 16, 2020 9:16:41 GMT -6
I have to sidestep the "no-jazz" prerequisite, but it still deserves mentioning: just about any ECM recording.
-09
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Post by drumsound on Apr 16, 2020 14:05:26 GMT -6
I'm not too hip to all things Floyd. Did he use an especially nice ride? Probably. Dunno. He has a very specific touch and it drives a lot of the material. That's the beauty of Nick Mason. How and WHEN he hits things. |
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Post by drumsound on Apr 16, 2020 14:12:23 GMT -6
My first thought on this is Riders on the Storm. I'm pretty sure its a Paiste 602. I'm not a Paiste guy at all, but I love how that cymbal sounds and how it sits in the track.
When I was a kid (18 or 19) I bought a 21" Zildjian Rock Ride because it sounded just like the one on Appetite for Destruction. The only time I've used it in recent years what when a student picked Paradise City as a song to learn.
I'm going to have to think of some more...
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Post by lpedrum on Apr 16, 2020 21:48:53 GMT -6
When I was a kid (18 or 19) I bought a 21" Zildjian Rock Ride because it sounded just like the one on Appetite for Destruction. The only time I've used it in recent years what when a student picked Paradise City as a song to learn. Yeah, when rock got louder and denser ride cymbals got heavier and clangier. And when rock producers started to consistently put wide, doubled electric guitar on everything it became pretty hard to find room for the ride cymbal in a mix. |
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Post by EmRR on Apr 16, 2020 22:27:15 GMT -6
When I was a kid (18 or 19) I bought a 21" Zildjian Rock Ride because it sounded just like the one on Appetite for Destruction. The only time I've used it in recent years what when a student picked Paradise City as a song to learn. Yeah, when rock got louder and denser ride cymbals got heavier and clangier. And when rock producers started to consistently put wide, doubled electric guitar on everything it became pretty hard to find room for the ride cymbal in a mix. And then we started putting 2-3 stripes of duct tape on peoples cymbals in the studio..... |
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Post by yotonic on Apr 16, 2020 22:54:54 GMT -6
Roger Hawkins is the man. What a catalog, most people have no idea of the extent and variety of songs he has played on. This is a favorite with Odetta.
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Post by plainofjars on Apr 17, 2020 11:06:40 GMT -6
Radiohead - Dollars and Cents
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Post by drumsound on Apr 17, 2020 13:23:23 GMT -6
When I was a kid (18 or 19) I bought a 21" Zildjian Rock Ride because it sounded just like the one on Appetite for Destruction. The only time I've used it in recent years what when a student picked Paradise City as a song to learn. Yeah, when rock got louder and denser ride cymbals got heavier and clangier. And when rock producers started to consistently put wide, doubled electric guitar on everything it became pretty hard to find room for the ride cymbal in a mix. Not a problem with that cymbal. I totally blame Meas Boogie for how bad a lot of modern cymbals sound... |
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Post by notneeson on Apr 17, 2020 15:22:02 GMT -6
Yeah, when rock got louder and denser ride cymbals got heavier and clangier. And when rock producers started to consistently put wide, doubled electric guitar on everything it became pretty hard to find room for the ride cymbal in a mix. Not a problem with that cymbal. I totally blame Meas Boogie for how bad a lot of modern cymbals sound... They are right across town, I’ll let them know. 😀 |
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Post by drumsound on Apr 17, 2020 22:24:54 GMT -6
Not a problem with that cymbal. I totally blame Meas Boogie for how bad a lot of modern cymbals sound... They are right across town, I’ll let them know. 😀 Please Do! That said, I have TWO of their amps. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 17, 2020 22:36:37 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 17, 2020 22:37:51 GMT -6
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