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Post by stratboy on May 15, 2020 14:12:50 GMT -6
Good to hear. I don’t need inserts for tracking. Just for mixing. Thanks!
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Post by wiz on May 15, 2020 16:29:23 GMT -6
Console has inserts for outboard?
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Post by kcatthedog on May 15, 2020 16:57:27 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 15, 2020 17:15:41 GMT -6
I really, really dig Luna...Feel like I'm getting my best mixes I've ever gotten...I think I could probably replicate in PT or Cubase, but not as easily.
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Post by guitfiddler on Sept 15, 2020 18:14:45 GMT -6
I’m still having ilok issues and now the ATR 102 says authorization missing. I bought this plugin when it came out. I followed all the instructions that UA tech support gave me. It’s rock solid other than issues with ilok and little annoying bugs, but I have been getting some good sounds with Luna. I just wish that I could just install or update Luna and everything just works. I think I need to update my computer, still on a 2012 i7 MacBook Pro, meh...
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Post by Martin John Butler on Sept 15, 2020 18:28:13 GMT -6
I haven't even looked at Luna yet. Logic was hard enough to get together. Still, if it potentially sounds better I may have to try it soon. Is the sound any better when compared to using Pro Tools, Logic, etc.?
I assume Audio Units plug-ins can be used along with UAD's?
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Post by nudwig on Sept 15, 2020 18:35:02 GMT -6
I’m still having ilok issues and now the ATR 102 says authorization missing. I bought this plugin when it came out. I followed all the instructions that UA tech support gave me. It’s rock solid other than issues with ilok and little annoying bugs, but I have been getting some good sounds with Luna. I just wish that I could just install or update Luna and everything just works. I think I need to update my computer, still on a 2012 i7 MacBook Pro, meh... Maybe try re-syncing your ilok? Mine has needed it more often for some reason lately.
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Post by tkaitkai on Sept 15, 2020 19:06:30 GMT -6
I'm itching to try it out, but I already know the proposed workaround for no track freeze is going to drive me crazy — you seriously have to bounce to disk and then re-import? Why can't you just send to another track and print? That's nuts. The overheating thing is pretty concerning, too... hope UA sorts all that out.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Sept 15, 2020 20:27:24 GMT -6
If my computer started overheating from using a daw, I'd stop using it. Tkaikai, are you referring to the computer or an Apollo overheating?
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Post by tkaitkai on Sept 15, 2020 20:44:57 GMT -6
Martin John ButlerThe computer, unfortunately. It doesn't seem to happen to everyone, but a bunch of people have reported their Macs getting super hot and the fans going crazy. I'd give it a try, but I'm still on Sierra. Doesn't seem worth the trouble to update my OS just yet.
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Post by phantom on Sept 16, 2020 8:17:09 GMT -6
I really really can't afford to work on a V1 DAW, inevitably full of bugs, inconsistencies and new features every 2 weeks.
Also, it's ridiculous that's it "has a sound". I know that it does not. Do you like the Neve summing? Put another Neve Summing Plugin on each track. There is a bunch out there. Do you like tape, the same thing. If it's a workflow thing, yeah, I totally get. Each one will gel with a different workflow to achieve certain goals.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 16, 2020 8:37:42 GMT -6
I really really can't afford to work on a V1 DAW, inevitably full of bugs, inconsistencies and new features every 2 weeks. Also, it's ridiculous that's it "has a sound". I know that it does not. Do you like the Neve summing? Put another Neve Summing Plugin on each track. There is a bunch out there. Do you like tape, the same thing. If it's a workflow thing, yeah, I totally get. Each one will gel with a different workflow to achieve certain goals. You’re the only one here that has said “it has a sound.”
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Post by phantom on Sept 16, 2020 12:01:25 GMT -6
I really really can't afford to work on a V1 DAW, inevitably full of bugs, inconsistencies and new features every 2 weeks. Also, it's ridiculous that's it "has a sound". I know that it does not. Do you like the Neve summing? Put another Neve Summing Plugin on each track. There is a bunch out there. Do you like tape, the same thing. If it's a workflow thing, yeah, I totally get. Each one will gel with a different workflow to achieve certain goals. You’re the only one here that has said “it has a sound.” Yeah. Here.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 16, 2020 12:56:22 GMT -6
You’re the only one here that has said “it has a sound.” Yeah. Here. My point is, I don’t think anyone has said it has a different quality of sound, but it has the tools built in to make it better sounding. I have used Slate VCC in a bunch of different DAWS and never had the experience I’m getting in Luna. Maybe there are different things like the Sonimus stuff I haven’t used that can be used in other daws - I’m just saying a love having it built in.
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 16, 2020 15:53:05 GMT -6
Theoretically Luna sounds like console, it has the Neve summing if you want to use it or the other extensions: ampex etc.,
No one if forced to use Luna, you can keep on using console for tracking and whatever daw you want afterwards.
As UA said, it launched Luna basically in beta during covid to I think give people something new to test run and to communicate directly with the developers for bugs and or for feature suggestions: where’s the problem?
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Post by ragan on Sept 16, 2020 16:06:51 GMT -6
Worth noting that it's a fundamentally different thing to add distortion to tracks and have the DAW do its usual sum (VCC, et al) than to mess with the actual summing from within the DAW itself (Luna).
I have no idea what the results are since I'm not in the UAD ecosystem and haven't used Luna. But it's a different attempt at console emulation than something like VCC, which is really just an effect like anything else inserted over the top of the DAW's existent summing.
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Post by phantom on Sept 16, 2020 16:29:49 GMT -6
Worth noting that it's a fundamentally different thing to add distortion to tracks and have the DAW do its usual sum (VCC, et al) than to mess with the actual summing from within the DAW itself (Luna). I have no idea what the results are since I'm not in the UAD ecosystem and haven't used Luna. But it's a different attempt at console emulation than something like VCC, which is really just an effect like anything else inserted over the top of the DAW's existent summing. I don't believe that an integrated summing plugin makes a difference sound wise than a non integrated. Actually, in this case I have tested and it does not, to my ears at least. But anyway... Also, nobody is forcing nobody to do this and that, blah blah blah, all that stuff. Yeah, I totally agree, why wouldn't I?
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Post by ragan on Sept 16, 2020 16:40:58 GMT -6
Worth noting that it's a fundamentally different thing to add distortion to tracks and have the DAW do its usual sum (VCC, et al) than to mess with the actual summing from within the DAW itself (Luna). I have no idea what the results are since I'm not in the UAD ecosystem and haven't used Luna. But it's a different attempt at console emulation than something like VCC, which is really just an effect like anything else inserted over the top of the DAW's existent summing. I don't believe that an integrated summing plugin makes a difference sound wise than a non integrated. Actually, in this case I have tested and it does not, to my ears at least. But anyway... Also, nobody is forcing nobody to do this and that, blah blah blah, all that stuff. Yeah, I totally agree, why wouldn't I? I'd be interested to know more about what you've tested. What other DAW has this? Harrison Mixbus? As I said, I don't have any position on the sonics since I haven't tested it. Just pointing out that it's a different approach.
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 16, 2020 17:01:00 GMT -6
I guess the big Luna surprise to me was that UA released it in beta as it is normally so careful about releases.
I thought luna’s release indicated a culture shift for ua and a willingness to work with its users In real time testing, tweaking and upgrading a major new product.
Interesting times.
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Post by guitfiddler on Oct 24, 2020 1:59:57 GMT -6
Update-Luna is finally working on my 2012 MacBook Pro. It's been solid and haven't had an issue. I'm liking Luna, I think it's really going to be good. Superior Drummer 3 running good. Testing the Moog, Ravel, Neve Summing. Still can't get it working on my 2012 Mac Mini maxed out. I think it's due to not WUPing my Waves plugins. That's the only thing different from my MacBook Pro and my Mini. No Waves on my MacBook Pro.
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 24, 2020 2:32:37 GMT -6
I imported some wav files into Luna and fooled around with mastering using neve summing, you can hear the difference even on one track, ampex extension, a few UA plugs and 3rd party ( fab filter).
Worked fine, no hiccups and good sound, first session so still learning the work flow. I have enuff finished songs for 3-4 albums am redoing final mixes adding in UA plugs now that I am back in ua’sville with my X6, will likely master all in Luna, the export/render worked fine too.
So 10 out of 10 for me, in this somewhat limited utilization.
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