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Post by drbill on Jun 26, 2019 13:14:39 GMT -6
But Happychap's post DID piss me off. I get that, although I'd guess it was a misunderstanding, but I could be wrong. The real issue is - how do we deal with things when we get pissed off. Cause it's going to happen. Guaranteed.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 26, 2019 13:17:38 GMT -6
He's taken shots in the last four posts he's made.
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Post by drbill on Jun 26, 2019 13:22:53 GMT -6
He's taken shots in the last four posts he's made. Even with "happy" in his name? LOL OK, chalk another one up for me being wrong. LOL
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Post by chessparov on Jun 26, 2019 13:51:34 GMT -6
I lurk at Terry Mannings's too BTW. Other than this (terrific!) place... My other favorite was PSW... When Bob Buontempo, a great guy (RIP), had a forum there and Terry M's-of course. Chris
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Post by Bender on Jun 26, 2019 14:12:17 GMT -6
People can be blowhards for sure, let’s make the best of it and double down on the community though; Can’t think of a better time for those to hit the donate button to help keep the lights on!
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Post by christopher on Jun 26, 2019 17:07:10 GMT -6
totally, thanks for this place. I'm here too much really, but that's because there's nowhere else on the internet as cool as this place. Whoever left, maybe they needed to force themselves to focus on real life for a while? I know I should too. But then I look at the newsfeed, which immediately needs to be erased with good news.. which is here.
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 26, 2019 17:28:55 GMT -6
Well, there IS a way we can show our appreciation. I'm sure you all know it!
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 26, 2019 17:30:59 GMT -6
He's taken shots in the last four posts he's made. That reminds me - IT'S HAPPY HOUR!
Time to take shots! See y'all a bit later!
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Post by hoppychop on Jun 26, 2019 21:27:35 GMT -6
But Happychap's post DID piss me off. I get that, although I'd guess it was a misunderstanding, but I could be wrong. The real issue is - how do we deal with things when we get pissed off. Cause it's going to happen. Guaranteed. My point in bringing up GS was that sometimes! we can’t ignore things that bother us. And this forum is proof- it’s the direct result of John getting pissed at how he was treated at GS and saying screw it, I’ll start my own forum. He could have just ignored the things that bothered him at GS. I’m simply pointing that out! If valid points are what piss people off and get members banned, then we all have a future in politics. I’m not the troll that John wants to make me out to be. But RGO is obviously his place and as such, he has the power to do as he wishes. It’s not so much a community, as it is a house party. And the host has taken offense at something that isn’t a big deal (IMO).
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 26, 2019 22:06:35 GMT -6
I've been a member here since day 1 or 2. Six years ago, there was a thread about the UAD Apollo at GS that had over a million views. Some of us became friendly and migrated here to escape the nonsense at GS. I doubt I spend more than an hour a year there now. As RGO grew, we did in truth become a kind of community, contrary to what you claim happychap. I've been helped by many people here more times them I can remember. I've become friends with some people here and have enjoyed hearing from some of the most experienced engineers and producers who've graciously shared their vast experience. Some of us endeavored to get together at events like AES and NAMM. As a kind of community, many of what I might call senior members try to tactfully help keep things moving forward and prevent threads from getting bogged down by personal attacks and arrogant know it all mentalities.
I haven't followed your posts that were mentioned, but if people here are annoyed at someone, it's probably for good reason. Most of the senior members here are highly tolerant of differing opinions and rarely if ever descend into personal attacks.
As for the topic, I've had occasion to ignore one or two people because they were personally insulting and directing serious hostility. Try spending some time getting to know the regular posters and enjoy the atmosphere here. It's a cool place to hang if you can chill a bit.
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Post by hoppychop on Jun 26, 2019 22:31:43 GMT -6
I haven't followed your posts that were mentioned, but if people here are annoyed at someone, it's probably for good reason. Most of the senior members here are highly tolerant of differing opinions and rarely if ever descend into personal attacks. Well, I was just banned today not because I broke any rules or attacked anyone. It’s because John got pissed and he has the power. Innocent until proven guilty is the trait of a true community. Not seeing that here. I’m seeing ‘well, you must have done something.’ When that’s not really the case. No big deal, but I don’t want to be grossly mischaracterized just because there’s a hierarchy that influences how people think. John just might be the one who’s wrong here, but that’s obviously not important.
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Post by hoppychop on Jun 26, 2019 23:08:19 GMT -6
fwiw, I remember when John, Regan and Cowboy Coalminer (guitfiddle here on rgo) each showed up on GS. And I distinctly remember both Regan and Cowboy getting upset when I said I thought the silver face Apollo (the original- it was just called Apollo) didn’t sound so great. Of course now that would be a point of agreement, but back then it pissed people off...because people get pissed off about (stupid) stuff. Myself included.
And GS is the worst place, no wonder JK started this place. But I do see some of the same behavior here- online human nature, regardless of the color of the forum. Also there’s something about ‘music people,’ that’s a little off. I mean, obviously.
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Post by m03 on Jun 26, 2019 23:51:26 GMT -6
Hmm, a drama feedback loop. How unexpected.
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Post by ragan on Jun 27, 2019 0:10:29 GMT -6
fwiw, I remember when John, Regan and Cowboy Coalminer (guitfiddle here on rgo) each showed up on GS. And I distinctly remember both Regan and Cowboy getting upset when I said I thought the silver face Apollo (the original- it was just called Apollo) didn’t sound so great. Of course now that would be a point of agreement, but back then it pissed people off...because people get pissed off about (stupid) stuff. Myself included. And GS is the worst place, no wonder JK started this place. But I do see some of the same behavior here- online human nature, regardless of the color of the forum. Also there’s something about ‘music people,’ that’s a little off. I mean, obviously. Just to correct some matters of factual record: 1. guitfiddler is not cowboycoalminer here on RGO. 2. I don't remotely care whether you like(d) the SF Apollo or any other piece of gear. If I took issue with your posts it would have been because I thought you weren't making valid points (whether I was right or wrong in that assessment is of course a totally different question). I've never been "upset" about any opinion on any piece of gear.
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 27, 2019 0:50:39 GMT -6
fwiw, I remember when John, Regan and Cowboy Coalminer (guitfiddle here on rgo) each showed up on GS. And I distinctly remember both Regan and Cowboy getting upset when I said I thought the silver face Apollo (the original- it was just called Apollo) didn’t sound so great. Of course now that would be a point of agreement, but back then it pissed people off...because people get pissed off about (stupid) stuff. Myself included. And GS is the worst place, no wonder JK started this place. But I do see some of the same behavior here- online human nature, regardless of the color of the forum. Also there’s something about ‘music people,’ that’s a little off. I mean, obviously. And some people don't know when to quit.......
Just an observation.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 27, 2019 7:44:18 GMT -6
I haven't followed your posts that were mentioned, but if people here are annoyed at someone, it's probably for good reason. Most of the senior members here are highly tolerant of differing opinions and rarely if ever descend into personal attacks. Well, I was just banned today not because I broke any rules or attacked anyone. It’s because John got pissed and he has the power. Innocent until proven guilty is the trait of a true community. Not seeing that here. I’m seeing ‘well, you must have done something.’ When that’s not really the case. No big deal, but I don’t want to be grossly mischaracterized just because there’s a hierarchy that influences how people think. John just might be the one who’s wrong here, but that’s obviously not important. You weren’t banned. If I had banned you, you wouldn’t be back here with another screen name.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 27, 2019 7:44:33 GMT -6
But I’m about to change my mind.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 27, 2019 7:48:23 GMT -6
fwiw, I remember when John, Regan and Cowboy Coalminer (guitfiddle here on rgo) each showed up on GS. And I distinctly remember both Regan and Cowboy getting upset when I said I thought the silver face Apollo (the original- it was just called Apollo) didn’t sound so great. Of course now that would be a point of agreement, but back then it pissed people off...because people get pissed off about (stupid) stuff. Myself included. And GS is the worst place, no wonder JK started this place. But I do see some of the same behavior here- online human nature, regardless of the color of the forum. Also there’s something about ‘music people,’ that’s a little off. I mean, obviously. Just to correct some matters of factual record: 1. guitfiddler is not cowboycoalminer here on RGO. 2. I don't remotely care whether you like(d) the SF Apollo or any other piece of gear. If I took issue with your posts it would have been because I thought you weren't making valid points (whether I was right or wrong in that assessment is of course a totally different question). I've never been "upset" about any opinion on any piece of gear. This guy is a legend in his own mind. If I remember ANYTHING about my reaction to the Apollo silverface, it was That I never liked the way it sounded.
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Post by EmRR on Jun 27, 2019 8:41:51 GMT -6
What phase of the moon are we in?
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Post by matt@IAA on Jun 27, 2019 8:57:36 GMT -6
Whether it’s a community or a house party it’s generally rude to insult whoever is hosting. And both are voluntary. Not like anyone forces us to participate in this forum/community/house party.
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Post by adamjbrass on Jun 27, 2019 9:38:05 GMT -6
guys, did you know that the term "Dork" actually means "whale penis"...I had no idea before today!
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Post by mcirish on Jun 27, 2019 10:07:56 GMT -6
guys, did you know that the term "Dork" actually means "whale penis"...I had no idea before today! DorkI think that is an urban myth Adam. But don't take offense. :-)
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Post by adamjbrass on Jun 27, 2019 10:09:35 GMT -6
guys, did you know that the term "Dork" actually means "whale penis"...I had no idea before today! DorkI think that is an urban myth Adam. But don't take offense. :-) Ah shit, if its on Wiki peedia, it must be true
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Post by mythundreamt on Jun 27, 2019 11:43:04 GMT -6
Hey hey can we all get back on-topic please? So is a Carnhill really good enough or does it have to be only either a St. Ives or Marinair?? <ducks>
John, wow, sorry to hear that's how much goes into running this place (the part about manufacturers is kinda understandable from their pov though). Had no idea.. had no way of knowing it I suppose. But you should know.. for every one of those interactions of yours, there are probably a thousand whale penises like me lurking here who are silently grateful and find this place invaluable every day.
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 27, 2019 12:42:35 GMT -6
guys, did you know that the term "Dork" actually means "whale penis"...I had no idea before today! Well, I just looked that up - it appears that (1) that definition is apocryphal and (2) the word never appeared before the 1960s or possibly late '50s.
On Snopes somebody suggested that someone, asked for the meaning of "dork" answered "whale penis" as a joke and it spread.
Actually it appears that "dork" is a comic corruption of the word "dick".......
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