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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 28, 2019 7:00:40 GMT -6
Do you have drop box? If so, make a folder and post the link here. If you want send them to me, I can do it. PM me if you'd like.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 28, 2019 7:01:46 GMT -6
K I’ll send separate.
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Post by Guitar on Mar 28, 2019 7:23:58 GMT -6
You could also use Google Drive, I think, if you're already signed up for Gmail or any google service.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 28, 2019 8:35:45 GMT -6
Going with wetransfer, just need peeps email address: 2 sent !
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Post by Ward on Mar 28, 2019 10:44:00 GMT -6
Got 'em!!
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Post by ragan on Mar 28, 2019 11:08:15 GMT -6
Send 'em my way, Matt. I've got a couple days of spring break left, ya never know.
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Post by svart on Mar 28, 2019 11:14:24 GMT -6
Got them too. I'll load them up tonight and see what's what.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 28, 2019 13:16:46 GMT -6
PM sent
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Post by EmRR on Mar 28, 2019 13:26:20 GMT -6
Once you’ve sent there’s a shareable link available.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 28, 2019 14:23:26 GMT -6
Meaning I can post the wetransfer link and anybody can grab all the files ?
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 28, 2019 14:41:26 GMT -6
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Post by EmRR on Mar 28, 2019 14:46:01 GMT -6
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Post by sirthought on Mar 28, 2019 15:20:53 GMT -6
We have liftoff. It says it'll be three hours to download, but that should pass by in no time.
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Post by Guitar on Mar 28, 2019 16:20:45 GMT -6
mine's about 2 minutes
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Post by NoTomorrow on Mar 28, 2019 16:28:44 GMT -6
Yea I don't think these files have the same starting points. The drum tracks do.... but the music and bass track are off.
Dragging the first kick transient into alignment with the start of the bass file, and then syncing the other drum tracks to the kick track seems to work. It then seems to sync musically, even though I don't know the arrangement.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 28, 2019 16:30:20 GMT -6
Ya I think when I added the new separate parts I screwed up the start but it should be a half bar lead in, my bad !
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Post by NoTomorrow on Mar 28, 2019 16:42:53 GMT -6
Ok I thought so.
A half bar at what tempo? It's obviously free time, but what tempo did you start with?
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 28, 2019 17:01:44 GMT -6
Tempo is 77 bpm, song is in 5/4 but solo is in 4/4/. Sorry is this is confusing but I recorded the actual drum parts in a new session with a stereo sub mix of the session and the bass parts separately. I have an older mbp 2012 and I find this puts less strain on the cpu instead of adding all the drum parts to the actual session. But wav files start points should just be vertically aligned at the same point.
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Post by svart on Mar 28, 2019 18:54:34 GMT -6
I got into this tonight. Evaluated the drums, did a bunch of edits, etc..
Anyway, I ran into the same alignment issue, not really sure how it's supposed to start.. can you supply a guide track that you've already mixed so we can tell exactly how the tracks align?
Second.. I don't want to nitpick, but there is some crazy phasing going on with the melody track. Very mid-range centric.. tracked on an Apollo by chance?
Anyway, tomorrow I'll do more as I now have a good idea what I'm going to do.
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Post by mcirish on Mar 28, 2019 19:14:47 GMT -6
Were all tracks exported from Zero? I'm having trouble with timing on it. Also, the tracks all came in as stereo. Were they bounced that way? I'd imagine them mostly to be mono tracks. I brought them into Nuendo.
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Post by jampa on Mar 28, 2019 21:55:17 GMT -6
Here we are - spent about an hour - after which I'd move to another area then come back to rebalance (iterative mixing) www.dropbox.com/s/257ayhms5zp3cnq/RGO%20drums.mp3?dl=0So I did: - quite a bit of gating due to bleed
- individual tom hits cut out
- high pass on overheads (using as "cymbal mics")
- reverb pre-delay timed to track tempo
Also: - Bass and submix are included for context
- Bass very lightly compressed on peaks (which helps drum peaks)
- Some "soothe" on submix (some harshness masked where I wanted drums to sit)
If I was going further, I'd tighten up the timing, which can be a bit distracting as is. I'd maybe look at tracking with more of a stereo spread on the overhead mics, or find a good spot for mono overhead instead. Thanks KCat for the opportunity!
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 28, 2019 22:46:24 GMT -6
Thanks everyone again sorry about timing but all parts should start together on the first downbeat.
I can post a mix track first thing tomorrow.
In logic it’s easy to switch between stereo and mono tracks
if people want to stop I am off tomorrow so could repost the tracks all aligned and in mono ?
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 28, 2019 22:51:22 GMT -6
jampa the sound quality of your drums to me is amazing! obviously raw drums sound like they sound but to move to the clarity, smoothness and that finish is impressive: thank you !
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Post by the other mark williams on Mar 28, 2019 22:54:10 GMT -6
Thanks everyone again sorry about timing but all parts should start together on the first downbeat. I can post a mix track first thing tomorrow. In logic it’s easy to switch between stereo and mono tracks if people want to stop I am off tomorrow so could repost the tracks all aligned and in mono ? All tracks aligned from 0 0 0 0 and mono tracks would certainly be easier on the mixing end of things. I'm not sure that I'll have time to participate, but the lower the barrier to entry, the greater the chance! Thanks for opening yourself up to doing this, kcat!
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Post by NoTomorrow on Mar 28, 2019 23:41:22 GMT -6
I just mixed the song..... I guess I can bounce the drums if you want. But here's the mix A couple of notes 1) cool song dude 2) i think there's too much high end in the music track on the vocals and lead - 3) I did a lot of m/s processing on the music track to tame brightness on vocals and get separation of guitars 4) there's so much bleed between the mics that I just used it - it would be impossible to get real separation with these tracks - it's essentially 'big mono' because of the bleed 5) lots of bus processing to get it to glue 6) you probably need to replay that bass part - too many timing issues and it's gonna throw off first-time listeners Good times that was fun Here's the link to the file on my Dropbox, 16bit 44.1 www.dropbox.com/s/g97edepa5q7wec9/NT-RGO-DRUMS.wav?dl=0
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