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SA-9000
Jan 24, 2019 12:45:12 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Jan 24, 2019 12:45:12 GMT -6
Yeah I was about to say..I hated the Duality channel compressors. haha haven't worked on an older SSL. But no surprised to read they used different components. So that explains that. Not sure what the appeal of the SSL preamp is. Think they are just a 5532 or TL073 IC preamp. Nothing super special about them. Can buy tons of preamps that sound the same basically these days. It's an array of 5534s. The special thing is that they're super quiet, low noise and very high headroom. I think today's use of high quality preamp chips meet similar specs, but their implementation is usually subpar in cheaper devices.
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SA-9000
Jan 24, 2019 15:58:28 GMT -6
Post by Blackdawg on Jan 24, 2019 15:58:28 GMT -6
Yeah I was about to say..I hated the Duality channel compressors. haha haven't worked on an older SSL. But no surprised to read they used different components. So that explains that. Not sure what the appeal of the SSL preamp is. Think they are just a 5532 or TL073 IC preamp. Nothing super special about them. Can buy tons of preamps that sound the same basically these days. It's an array of 5534s. The special thing is that they're super quiet, low noise and very high headroom. I think today's use of high quality preamp chips meet similar specs, but their implementation is usually subpar in cheaper devices. cool good to know. I didn't really mean cheap ones. Just that there are a lot of clean high gain preamps out there that are better IMO.
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SA-9000
Jan 24, 2019 17:58:30 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Jan 24, 2019 17:58:30 GMT -6
It's an array of 5534s. The special thing is that they're super quiet, low noise and very high headroom. I think today's use of high quality preamp chips meet similar specs, but their implementation is usually subpar in cheaper devices. cool good to know. I didn't really mean cheap ones. Just that there are a lot of clean high gain preamps out there that are better IMO. Which ones? I think clean is clean. Once upon a reach a certain level, they're all the same. One thing I generally notice is that "clean" typically also means "hard" sounding. The SSL preamps never sound hard, but don't lack for detail either.
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SA-9000
Jan 24, 2019 22:25:25 GMT -6
Post by Blackdawg on Jan 24, 2019 22:25:25 GMT -6
cool good to know. I didn't really mean cheap ones. Just that there are a lot of clean high gain preamps out there that are better IMO. Which ones? I think clean is clean. Once upon a reach a certain level, they're all the same. One thing I generally notice is that "clean" typically also means "hard" sounding. The SSL preamps never sound hard, but don't lack for detail either. Grace Millennium Lots of diy 990 based pre amps. Great river has a clean model Not saying the SSL ones suck. There's just better options for a clean open detailed pre imo
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SA-9000
Jan 25, 2019 14:33:44 GMT -6
Post by Guitar on Jan 25, 2019 14:33:44 GMT -6
Even something like the Tascam UH-7000, or Yamaha MLA-8 are a great deal for solid state IC preamps. At least those are ones that I have used successfully.
If SSL is famous for something, it's probably not their preamp. Although I don't doubt that they are good.
I just realized I'm using quite a bit of the SSL compressor in the box with my UAD plugins. I wasn't sure what it was about that strip that draws me in, but the compressor is definitely a big part now that I'm reflecting on that. I use it on drums mainly.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 5, 2019 0:04:44 GMT -6
Not sure if anyone here saw this: www.stamaudio.com/sa4000eq.htmlI’m hoping a dual channel comp comes soon, or a full channel strip. stam, is there any reason you didn’t include the high and low pass filters in the sa4000EQ? It wasn’t included with the SA9000 preamps either.
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Post by stormymondays on Feb 5, 2019 3:27:41 GMT -6
If anybody wants the SSL sound get Console 1 today while it’s still on sale (I think) and thank me tomorrow when you do your first mix with it
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 5, 2019 10:43:58 GMT -6
Not sure if anyone here saw this: www.stamaudio.com/sa4000eq.htmlI’m hoping a dual channel comp comes soon, or a full channel strip. stam , is there any reason you didn’t include the high and low pass filters in the sa4000EQ? It wasn’t included with the SA9000 preamps either. kind of bummed about the filters. The pre order price was so good that I almost jumped in but noticed no filters or phase flip I think. Killed it for me.
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SA-9000
Feb 5, 2019 11:18:38 GMT -6
Post by Vincent R. on Feb 5, 2019 11:18:38 GMT -6
Not sure if anyone here saw this: www.stamaudio.com/sa4000eq.htmlI’m hoping a dual channel comp comes soon, or a full channel strip. stam , is there any reason you didn’t include the high and low pass filters in the sa4000EQ? It wasn’t included with the SA9000 preamps either. kind of bummed about the filters. The pre order price was so good that I almost jumped in but noticed no filters or phase flip I think. Killed it for me. Me too. I literally grabbed my wallet and then put it away.
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SA-9000
Feb 5, 2019 11:20:08 GMT -6
Post by Blackdawg on Feb 5, 2019 11:20:08 GMT -6
kind of bummed about the filters. The pre order price was so good that I almost jumped in but noticed no filters or phase flip I think. Killed it for me. Me too. I literally grabbed my wallet and then put it away. Yep did the same thing. Killer price for some EQs but..i use the damn HPF on those EQs all the time. Shame.
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 5, 2019 11:39:22 GMT -6
Me too. I literally grabbed my wallet and then put it away. Yep did the same thing. Killer price for some EQs but..i use the damn HPF on those EQs all the time. Shame. Usually the first thing I do when EQing.
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Post by Tbone81 on Feb 5, 2019 11:45:12 GMT -6
Why does it say “Vintage Tube Equalizer”?
And why does Stam keep offering preorders when he clearly stated that he was ending that sales model and going through dealers?
These inconsistencies (and others) are why I didn’t buy the SA-609.
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SA-9000
Feb 5, 2019 12:13:57 GMT -6
Post by Blackdawg on Feb 5, 2019 12:13:57 GMT -6
Why does it say “Vintage Tube Equalizer”? And why does Stam keep offering preorders when he clearly stated that he was ending that sales model and going through dealers? These inconsistencies (and others) are why I didn’t buy the SA-609. Guessing that's a typo. A few website hiccups really. Like the SA-9000 is under the list for compressors.
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Post by svart on Feb 5, 2019 12:40:27 GMT -6
Not sure if anyone here saw this: www.stamaudio.com/sa4000eq.htmlI’m hoping a dual channel comp comes soon, or a full channel strip. stam , is there any reason you didn’t include the high and low pass filters in the sa4000EQ? It wasn’t included with the SA9000 preamps either. I saw it. Since I've put together my own version of the 4K EQ's, I wonder how they got around the obvious issues of the multiganged anti-log pots of uncommon value... Surely they aren't following my DIY commentary and using the parts I mentioned in my development threads for the 9K preamp and 4K EQ..
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SA-9000
Feb 5, 2019 12:43:11 GMT -6
Post by stam on Feb 5, 2019 12:43:11 GMT -6
Hi Guys
Let me know which features you want so I can add them
Thanks
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SA-9000
Feb 5, 2019 12:57:23 GMT -6
Post by stam on Feb 5, 2019 12:57:23 GMT -6
Why does it say “Vintage Tube Equalizer”? And why does Stam keep offering preorders when he clearly stated that he was ending that sales model and going through dealers? These inconsistencies (and others) are why I didn’t buy the SA-609. Because our webmaster does not understand English and sometimes there are typos on the texts that he does not realize. We are already selling though dealers, not for North America though and we won't. We run our business the way we consider is the best for us and our clients, in this line we decided to continue offering low prices to those who reserve for another year. If we decide to stop and that it is best to go through retailers worldwide we will do that. It has nothing to do with inconsistencies but rather adapting (constantly) to the market. Thanks
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SA-9000
Feb 5, 2019 13:50:18 GMT -6
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 5, 2019 13:50:18 GMT -6
Hi Guys Let me know which features you want so I can add them Thanks I would just say you should include the High and low pass filters on each EQ in the SA9000. It's an importart part of the EQ. On SSL gear it usually accompanies the preamp, but if you can add it to the EQs themselves that would be great. I love their EQ and comp, but don't use their preamp as much.
Are you planning a full channel strip or dual channel comp?
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SA-9000
Feb 5, 2019 21:25:11 GMT -6
Post by Quint on Feb 5, 2019 21:25:11 GMT -6
Is there actually even room enough on the 1U faceplate to accomodate two channels worth of HP and LP filters? From the image on Stam's website, I'm wondering if it's even possible to fit those in there on a 1U faceplate?
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Post by jeremygillespie on Feb 5, 2019 23:56:06 GMT -6
The curve you can get on an SSL EQ while boosting the top and cutting it back with the low pass filter is pretty awesome. Huge mistake to not offer that as part of the eq IMO
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Post by stam on Feb 6, 2019 7:13:09 GMT -6
The curve you can get on an SSL EQ while boosting the top and cutting it back with the low pass filter is pretty awesome. Huge mistake to not offer that as part of the eq IMO Very easy to add
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Post by lcr on Feb 6, 2019 8:35:28 GMT -6
The curve you can get on an SSL EQ while boosting the top and cutting it back with the low pass filter is pretty awesome. Huge mistake to not offer that as part of the eq IMO Classic bass trick, heavy 8k boost while LPing 10k. Instant bass attack.
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 6, 2019 8:56:24 GMT -6
The curve you can get on an SSL EQ while boosting the top and cutting it back with the low pass filter is pretty awesome. Huge mistake to not offer that as part of the eq IMO Very easy to add Well if you can guarantee you'll add it I might have to buy at least one.
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SA-9000
Feb 6, 2019 20:15:36 GMT -6
Post by thirdeye on Feb 6, 2019 20:15:36 GMT -6
I would have been on board instantly if they had the HP and LP.
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Post by stam on Feb 7, 2019 8:39:17 GMT -6
I finished drawing the new pcb with them Now I have to manage to fit it all into the faceplate!
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 7, 2019 10:19:51 GMT -6
I finished drawing the new pcb with them Now I have to manage to fit it all into the faceplate! Nice. In that case, I'll have to put a deposit down.
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