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SA-9000
Jan 22, 2019 19:03:13 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 22, 2019 19:03:13 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 22, 2019 19:09:59 GMT -6
Looks to be slightly different from the svart 9k. Glad it's not a direct clone of his.
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SA-9000
Jan 22, 2019 19:21:49 GMT -6
Post by M57 on Jan 22, 2019 19:21:49 GMT -6
Damn, I want meters - just give me a handful of LED's
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Post by stam on Jan 22, 2019 19:30:24 GMT -6
Damn, I want meters - just give me a handful of LED's I can probably fit 5 leds below the switches on each channel!
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SA-9000
Jan 22, 2019 19:51:29 GMT -6
Post by M57 on Jan 22, 2019 19:51:29 GMT -6
Damn, I want meters - just give me a handful of LED's I can probably fit 5 leds below the switches on each channel! Wow! You would do that? For me?? Just kidding. But seriously.. Of course we should be using our ears, but man is it nice it is to have that little bit of visual support. And honestly, as convenient as the LEDs are above the buttons - Their IN and OUT positions would be adequate. Eliminating those would buy you more space for the level LEDs.
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Post by svart on Jan 22, 2019 20:50:39 GMT -6
Looks to be slightly different from the svart 9k. Glad it's not a direct clone of his. Well, someone can buy one and take a look inside.. But honestly, can you *really* clone a clone?
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SA-9000
Jan 22, 2019 20:51:51 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Jan 22, 2019 20:51:51 GMT -6
Mine was 75$ a channel.. and only a few wanted it, it seems.
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Post by lcr on Jan 23, 2019 5:20:48 GMT -6
May 2019, lol.
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SA-9000
Jan 23, 2019 7:56:14 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 23, 2019 7:56:14 GMT -6
Looks to be slightly different from the svart 9k. Glad it's not a direct clone of his. Well, someone can buy one and take a look inside.. But honestly, can you *really* clone a clone? Marketing
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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 23, 2019 18:37:20 GMT -6
I’m waiting for the full channel strip; preamp, EQ, Comp.
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SA-9000
Jan 23, 2019 18:48:42 GMT -6
Post by M57 on Jan 23, 2019 18:48:42 GMT -6
I’m waiting for the full channel strip; preamp, EQ, Comp. Makes sense. I mean, if you're going to build a box, you might as well fill it.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 23, 2019 18:59:25 GMT -6
I’d possibly consider buying another Stam product if it was a 1ru piece with 4 or 6 of the ssl channel strip compressors in it. That would be awesome.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 23, 2019 19:19:34 GMT -6
I’d possibly consider buying another Stam product if it was a 1ru piece with 4 or 6 of the ssl channel strip compressors in it. That would be awesome. OMG, This!
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 23, 2019 20:27:33 GMT -6
I’d possibly consider buying another Stam product if it was a 1ru piece with 4 or 6 of the ssl channel strip compressors in it. That would be awesome. OMG, This! It’s such a totally BADASS compressor, If given the choice of 2 channel comps or one bus comp I’d take the channels. You can mold sounds soooo damn easily with those things. Top 3 favorite comps of all time. (I don’t personally believe any plug has gotten this particular comp sound anything close to the actual units)
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SA-9000
Jan 24, 2019 1:35:17 GMT -6
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Post by matt@IAA on Jan 24, 2019 1:35:17 GMT -6
Which variant exactly?
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SA-9000
Jan 24, 2019 1:51:31 GMT -6
Post by ragan on Jan 24, 2019 1:51:31 GMT -6
I’d possibly consider buying another Stam product if it was a 1ru piece with 4 or 6 of the ssl channel strip compressors in it. That would be awesome. This is an awesome idea. I love those channel comps. Slate FG-401 is (somewhat loosely) based on that and it's one of my fav ITB comps. In my hybrid rig, I'd love exactly what you describe. A 1RU piece with SSL channel comps.
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Post by wiz on Jan 24, 2019 2:53:27 GMT -6
I’d possibly consider buying another Stam product if it was a 1ru piece with 4 or 6 of the ssl channel strip compressors in it. That would be awesome. This is an awesome idea. I love those channel comps. Slate FG-401 is (somewhat loosely) based on that and it's one of my fav ITB comps. In my hybrid rig, I'd love exactly what you describe. A 1RU piece with SSL channel comps. I have said it before. I can’t believe some one never came out with a Adam connectable box that had 8 channels of. Eq comp Cheers Wiz
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SA-9000
Jan 24, 2019 2:54:12 GMT -6
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Post by wiz on Jan 24, 2019 2:54:12 GMT -6
I’d possibly consider buying another Stam product if it was a 1ru piece with 4 or 6 of the ssl channel strip compressors in it. That would be awesome. This is an awesome idea. I love those channel comps. Slate FG-401 is (somewhat loosely) based on that and it's one of my fav ITB comps. In my hybrid rig, I'd love exactly what you describe. A 1RU piece with SSL channel comps. I have said it before. I can’t believe some one never came out with a Adat connectable box that had 8 channels of. Eq comp Cheers Wiz
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Post by iamasound on Jan 24, 2019 3:23:58 GMT -6
wiz.. Sometimes once is just not enough.
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Post by svart on Jan 24, 2019 8:13:09 GMT -6
I’d possibly consider buying another Stam product if it was a 1ru piece with 4 or 6 of the ssl channel strip compressors in it. That would be awesome. The RMS detectors are long since EOL as are the special germanium diodes used in the detector circuit. There wouldn't be enough in the world to build a run of these compressors unless someone was able to figure out how to emulate the compressor curves with a newer RMS detector or in the digital domain. I do believe that some have tried, but nothing quite works like the original.
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SA-9000
Jan 24, 2019 8:20:30 GMT -6
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 24, 2019 8:20:30 GMT -6
I’d possibly consider buying another Stam product if it was a 1ru piece with 4 or 6 of the ssl channel strip compressors in it. That would be awesome. The RMS detectors are long since EOL as are the special germanium diodes used in the detector circuit. There wouldn't be enough in the world to build a run of these compressors unless someone was able to figure out how to emulate the compressor curves with a newer RMS detector or in the digital domain. I do believe that some have tried, but nothing quite works like the original. SSL is still putting them in the duality and aws no?
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Post by svart on Jan 24, 2019 8:31:44 GMT -6
The RMS detectors are long since EOL as are the special germanium diodes used in the detector circuit. There wouldn't be enough in the world to build a run of these compressors unless someone was able to figure out how to emulate the compressor curves with a newer RMS detector or in the digital domain. I do believe that some have tried, but nothing quite works like the original. SSL is still putting them in the duality and aws no? Completely different animal I believe, but I'm not sure. It's hard to get schematics for their new stuff. I think they're much more careful so folks don't go cloning everything..
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 24, 2019 9:38:20 GMT -6
SSL is still putting them in the duality and aws no? Completely different animal I believe, but I'm not sure. It's hard to get schematics for their new stuff. I think they're much more careful so folks don't go cloning everything.. Interesting. So, I’ve not mixed on an E series, but the channel comps on the J, K, Duality, and AWS all perform and sound the same to me. Were the ones in the E something different? I can definitely find out what they are using in the K - it’s in their service manual
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Post by svart on Jan 24, 2019 12:25:20 GMT -6
Completely different animal I believe, but I'm not sure. It's hard to get schematics for their new stuff. I think they're much more careful so folks don't go cloning everything.. Interesting. So, I’ve not mixed on an E series, but the channel comps on the J, K, Duality, and AWS all perform and sound the same to me. Were the ones in the E something different? I can definitely find out what they are using in the K - it’s in their service manual The 9KJ schematic I have shows Analog Devices SSM-2110 RMS detectors, which have been obsolete for at least 15 years the best I can tell. SSL apparently had to make a small PCB with THAT2252 chips on it and some other circuitry when the 2110 went obsolete, but those have also been obsolete for a while now too, so it's a given that SSL had to have changed to a different detector circuit during the 9K to AWS/Duality switchover. I'm guessing it's a THAT chip or maybe even digital sidechain at this point? The funny thing is that you can still get the 4K's AD536 RMS detector here and there but I have yet to see the SSM2210 ANYwhere. Either way, if you see any of these chips for sale and it's from China, you can guarantee they are fakes. You still have a 50/50 chance they are fakes even if they are from the USA too.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jan 24, 2019 12:38:39 GMT -6
Yeah I was about to say..I hated the Duality channel compressors. haha haven't worked on an older SSL. But no surprised to read they used different components.
So that explains that.
Not sure what the appeal of the SSL preamp is. Think they are just a 5532 or TL073 IC preamp. Nothing super special about them. Can buy tons of preamps that sound the same basically these days.
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