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Post by swurveman on Dec 10, 2018 13:25:17 GMT -6
I had this local kid who is now a junior in high school come in a few times over the past 5 years and sing country songs over Karaoke backing tracks. He is an average singer who I heavily auto tuned. He is posting photos on Facebook with Bernard Porter of PCG Artist Development. So, I am wondering if this is a legitimate enterprise, or a feeder on dreamers. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 13, 2018 20:56:17 GMT -6
Don't know about that place in particular, but in general, making money in the music business has shifted from the creators to those that sell creators what they need. In my wife's business, (Yoga teaching and Reflexology) studios have resorted to constantly selling teacher training. There isn't room for the huge surplus of teachers it creates, but they keep on doing it to pay the rent. Thing like Produce Like a Pro is one of the good examples. I doubt Warren Huart would be so on the case with his teaching enterprise if he was super busy making lots of money on sessions and productions. Same thing with plug-in sellers, they feed the fantasy. "You too can get the sounds of the greats with these plugins"! I'd guess that a company selling "artist developement" will take anyone who wants to try it, so my guess is they feed on the hopes of newbies. Of course, it's smart of you to see what feedback you can find on them, they may be OK after all.
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Post by swurveman on Dec 14, 2018 16:14:46 GMT -6
Don't know about that place in particular, but in general, making money in the music business has shifted from the creators to those that sell creators what they need. In my wife's business, (Yoga teaching and Reflexology) studios have resorted to constantly selling teacher training. There isn't room for the huge surplus of teachers it creates, but they keep on doing it to pay the rent. Thing like Produce Like a Pro is one of the good examples. I doubt Warren Huart would be so on the case with his teaching enterprise if he was super busy making lots of money on sessions and productions. Same thing with plug-in sellers, they feed the fantasy. "You too can get the sounds of the greats with these plugins"! I'd guess that a company selling "artist developement" will take anyone who wants to try it, so my guess is they feed on the hopes of newbies. Of course, it's smart of you to see what feedback you can find on them, they may be OK after all. Totally agree Martin. FWIW, I told him he should never pay anybody up front without some kind of commitment from them to deliver something tangible, but he came back and told me they were hooking him up with Grammy winning songwriters with the implication that they were going to pay for the recording as well. I told him I'm looking forward to hearing his new album. We'll see. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 14, 2018 22:22:23 GMT -6
Too bad he's not in NY, I'd take good care of him.
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Post by stratboy on Dec 17, 2018 21:49:11 GMT -6
Too bad he's not in NY, I'd take good care of him. Best scam I've seen along those llnes was this: I was working at a studio in Richmond, VA when a local country band booked a couple of days in one of the rooms. They told us they had hooked up with a Nashville writer/producer who had heard them, liked them, and wanted to produce a demo for them that he would shop around town. This was 1990 and the guy shall remain nameless, but he had had a couple of hits with an artist a few years before, so that part of it looked legit. The questionable part was, the local band was going to pay him and his engineer a flat fee to make the demo, which included the studio time. When the producer arrived from Nashville, everything was to his satisfaction, we showed his engineer how to run the room and the sessions proceeded. Here's the catch: the producer started the session by telling the band that the best way to present themselves was to record four of his songs and one of theirs for the demo. They bought it, and after two days of work, the producer went back to Nashville with nicely recorded demos of his songs to pitch to publishers, and he got PAID to do it. Basically, he got his studio time and session musicians for free. Sweet. I wonder how many other bands in other towns he pulled that one on over the years? Swurveman, I wonder if your kid is going to be asked to pay to sing the vocal on some new songs from these award-winning writers? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 21, 2018 0:56:53 GMT -6
I had this local kid who is now a junior in high school come in a few times over the past 5 years and sing country songs over Karaoke backing tracks. He is an average singer who I heavily auto tuned. He is posting photos on Facebook with Bernard Porter of PCG Artist Development. So, I am wondering if this is a legitimate enterprise, or a feeder on dreamers. That, my friend, is a complete scam. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 21, 2018 1:00:13 GMT -6
I had this local kid who is now a junior in high school come in a few times over the past 5 years and sing country songs over Karaoke backing tracks. He is an average singer who I heavily auto tuned. He is posting photos on Facebook with Bernard Porter of PCG Artist Development. So, I am wondering if this is a legitimate enterprise, or a feeder on dreamers. That, my friend, is a complete scam. Run. Run as far and as quickly as you can run. |
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Post by swurveman on Dec 21, 2018 15:33:58 GMT -6
That, my friend, is a complete scam. Run. Run as far and as quickly as you can run. Thanks for replying John. I'll message you about the situation. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 28, 2018 13:22:19 GMT -6
Run. Run as far and as quickly as you can run. Thanks for replying John. I'll message you about the situation. Actually, I'd love to hear more about this if you guys feel like sharing. |
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