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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 19, 2014 11:01:07 GMT -6
Logic is really only 2 bones though eh? That's pretty cool. Anyone else use this flex tune? I've always used Melodyne, but my version is outdated.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 19, 2014 13:34:59 GMT -6
Yeah, it's kinda sick how much Apple gives you with that. I think they're more concerned with Final Cut Pro customers, so they had to bring Logic up to speed.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 19, 2014 13:40:16 GMT -6
Yeah - it's impressive...BUT - to me - it's the least "logical" of all the DAWS...
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Post by jeromemason on Feb 19, 2014 13:44:07 GMT -6
I have an Axiom Pro 61 keyboard, and I guess I could use the pads on there, but I think it would be much more fun if I could get one of those digital drum kits and have a drummer come and play on my tracks, I've never considered that, as they always seems like a toy to me, but I guess I've been wrong. No toy..... with a digital kit that has enough velocity layers it can be pretty convincing. |
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Post by LesC on Feb 20, 2014 1:07:17 GMT -6
A nice thing about Platinum Samples is that the grooves come in several formats for SSD4, EZDrummer, BFD2, Superior Drummer, Addictive Drums, etc. The grooves from the individual companies, such as Toontrack, can be a real pain to set up to work with the SSD4 player. Fairly easy, but very time-consuming. Actually, the SSD4 player converts midi files from other companies automatically. I've been converting manually by changing the Toontracks directory names to fit the Slate structure. For high-level directories add an extension of .lib, next level add .sng, and next level add .prt. For anything but a trivial groove library, there are hundreds of renames, it takes me a couple of hours for each library. Once I've renamed the libraries, I can use the SSD4 map convertor. If I don't do these renames, SSD4 doesn't find the Toontrack groove libraries. Levon (or anyone), can you please tell me how to convert Toontrack files automatically for use in SSD4? I have about 5 more Toontrack libraries to convert, you would save me many hours of work. Google is usually my friend, but I can't seem to find anything about converting automatically. Help!!! |
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Post by RicFoxx on Feb 20, 2014 7:44:07 GMT -6
Yeah - it's impressive...BUT - to me - it's the least "logical" of all the DAWS... The "X" Version is dumbed down a bit but I know exactly what you mean. I hate having to go to the manual for simple stuff. But with that said, I almost always use logic for creation. It's really feature rich for $200. The Drummer feature is worth $200 for me alone. I haven't jumped into Flex Pitch as I have AT and Melodyne but I have tried it a few times and thought to myself...that feature is as good as both programs. Also, the Track Groove feature is nice...I use it like this: record a mono drum loop from me playing a kit that has just the feel Im looking for, choose it as groove source and check the other tracks that I want it to follow and boom a natural tight sounding quantization (mostly for bed tracks.) Really good program with some quirks...just like the rest of the DAWS. |
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Post by levon on Feb 20, 2014 8:45:49 GMT -6
Actually, the SSD4 player converts midi files from other companies automatically. I've been converting manually by changing the Toontracks directory names to fit the Slate structure. For high-level directories add an extension of .lib, next level add .sng, and next level add .prt. For anything but a trivial groove library, there are hundreds of renames, it takes me a couple of hours for each library. Once I've renamed the libraries, I can use the SSD4 map convertor. If I don't do these renames, SSD4 doesn't find the Toontrack groove libraries. Levon (or anyone), can you please tell me how to convert Toontrack files automatically for use in SSD4? I have about 5 more Toontrack libraries to convert, you would save me many hours of work. Google is usually my friend, but I can't seem to find anything about converting automatically. Help!!! I do it song by song, I drag the midi file into my project (in Logic - and I use Toontrack, for instance, to audition the grooves if I use Toontrack grooves). Then I insert SSD4 on that track and there you can tell it (on the mapping page, I think) which original software the midi files comes from (Superior, Addictive Drums, BFD etc). SSD4 then uses the mapping of the original software to play the midi files. I'm not in my studio right now, so I can't exactly tell you where in SSD4 this is, but there's always RTFM  |
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Post by LesC on Feb 20, 2014 11:55:23 GMT -6
I've been converting manually by changing the Toontracks directory names to fit the Slate structure. For high-level directories add an extension of .lib, next level add .sng, and next level add .prt. For anything but a trivial groove library, there are hundreds of renames, it takes me a couple of hours for each library. Once I've renamed the libraries, I can use the SSD4 map convertor. If I don't do these renames, SSD4 doesn't find the Toontrack groove libraries. Levon (or anyone), can you please tell me how to convert Toontrack files automatically for use in SSD4? I have about 5 more Toontrack libraries to convert, you would save me many hours of work. Google is usually my friend, but I can't seem to find anything about converting automatically. Help!!! I do it song by song, I drag the midi file into my project (in Logic - and I use Toontrack, for instance, to audition the grooves if I use Toontrack grooves). Then I insert SSD4 on that track and there you can tell it (on the mapping page, I think) which original software the midi files comes from (Superior, Addictive Drums, BFD etc). SSD4 then uses the mapping of the original software to play the midi files. I'm not in my studio right now, so I can't exactly tell you where in SSD4 this is, but there's always RTFM I see, yes that would work, but I want to audition all the different midi files from within the SSD4 player. Again that's what I like about the Platinum Samples, they are directly accessible by all the different midi drum players. I'll devote the several hours it will take to convert my 6 Toontrack libraries to SSD4 format, I like to have everything accessible from within the SSD4 player itself. Ultimately, for me this saves time instead of having to go back and forth between EZDrummer and SSD4, loading up drum kits takes some time. Also, this way I can audition the drums with the SSD4 player's mapping, which isn't always perfect. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 20, 2014 16:42:14 GMT -6
There's a way to do it...I'll look when I get in the studio...I think you click on "Mapping" or somthing and then select Superior Drums
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 21, 2014 16:28:19 GMT -6
Just grabbed the indie folk pack. Looking forward to take it for a spin.
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Post by LesC on Feb 26, 2014 11:56:45 GMT -6
There's a way to do it...I'll look when I get in the studio...I think you click on "Mapping" or somthing and then select Superior Drums Yes, you need to use the Superior Drums mapping. I meant that even with that, the mapping was not perfect. But in order to use the mapping, you need SSL4 to access the Toontrack midi files, and I haven't found a way to do that without copying the Toontrack folders to the SSL4 folders, and then renaming the directories to match the SSL4 directory naming conventions. It would actually be easy to export the Toontrack files to Linux, write a simple little script to do the directory renaming, then import back to Windows. I'll give it a try, I'd rather spend 5 minutes writing a Linux script than 12 hours renaming all the directories in all my Toontrack files. I'm sure this would be easy to do in Windows as well, but I'm not a Windows expert so I'm not familiar with its scripting facilities. |
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