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Post by mobeach on Feb 18, 2014 8:27:46 GMT -6
I received LE6 OEM version with a PCIe interface I just bought, being I already use 32/64 Reaper, Sonar 8 and Mixcraft 6 will this give me any capabilities I don't already have? Thanks
Edit: I just don't want to install this if it'll be a waste of time.
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Post by popmann on Feb 18, 2014 12:23:01 GMT -6
Waste of time. They're intentionally gimped versions to get people used to the GUI so that when they discover the limitations, it's easier to buy the full version of whatever software.
You actually, IMO, need to retire 2 of those three (not two specific ones...just the two you use least). There is no reason for multiple DAWs except to water down your ability to use any of them. Again, IMO. Pick one. Commit. Learn and use.
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Post by mobeach on Feb 18, 2014 12:56:56 GMT -6
Thanks for the advice, I got Reaper because I heard it had an easier learning curve than Sonar, which it has. And I use Mixcraft because it has a feature where you can make music videos. So I complete a song on Reaper then make videos with another program if I choose to.
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Post by Rock Kennedy on Feb 18, 2014 13:13:59 GMT -6
I use Reaper, Harrison Mixbus, and Tracktion 5. For ease of use, Tracktion beats out Reaper by a mile, not that Reaper doens't have some awesome features.
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Post by mobeach on Feb 18, 2014 13:57:04 GMT -6
I considered using Sonar for Mastering only.
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Post by LesC on Feb 18, 2014 15:45:58 GMT -6
I've used Cubase only for several years. Cubase LE6 is a waste of time in my opinion. It's not only a cut-down version, it's also incompatible in some ways.
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Post by popmann on Feb 18, 2014 18:49:03 GMT -6
I simply have no interest in using multiple apps. I own Logic from when I failed to get it set up as a MIDI/VI host (Cubase was still better-more stable-- on the Mac--which wasn't what I'd heard from the peanut gallery)...it's worthless to sell, so I put it on my little Air which integrates with the Kronos via one USB cable. Really sweet--only I've yet to actually have a need. I've run a few software synths in stand alone mode and recorded them in the Kronos...but, no need for Logic yet.
This would likely be a cool thread, though--"if you use multiple DAWs in YOUR studio....why?"
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Feb 18, 2014 19:16:24 GMT -6
I practically hate working in anything but Cubase but I keep Junk Tools and Logic around cause a lot of projects come in to the studio in those formats so it's really easier to just go along and work with like that instead of stemming them out and starting over. I started out with Steinberg in 95, spent a a dark period trying to get used to PT and then one day I thought (Why am I doing this?) Then went back to Cubase and never looked back.
But I agree with Pop. Pick one that you dig and stick with it is the easiest solution IMO.
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Post by mobeach on Feb 18, 2014 21:04:38 GMT -6
I started with MOTU Freestyle in the early 90's, been quite a while since I've had to use DOS to install a program..
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Post by popmann on Feb 18, 2014 21:36:48 GMT -6
I started with Performer in the late 80s/early 90s for MIDI...actually, I had MasterTraxPro for like 3 months first until--no tap tempo to SMPTE? Performer was IT. Only one that could allow me to sequence to tracks played without a click.
...then when I went Gigastudio (Windows) in the early 00's...I tried everything for MIDI there and wound up on Logic5, which ironically, Apple bought like the next year and stopped updates.
So, I actually got a hand me down old Mac from my dad and updated to DP3 again for MIDI...so NOW...I have a Mac running DP to sequence...a PC running Gigastudio for samples...and a hardware recorder doing audio. Maybe Roland VS? Later in that era came the Akai DPS24.
Then VSL moved from Giga to their own VIs...but, I needed a host...and it was Cubase4. So, I consolidated to all VIs in C4 on Windows for that....and ran the Akai for audio.
Started needing to use the Cubase rig for mixes that would come at 96khz....or 40+ tracks...so, I was constantly patching and unpatching between "my system" and "client system"...and I just got tired of it. Updated to Cubase6 and spent about a month with mixes on both systems doing some reverse engineering of why I liked the Akai's sound so much--could I duplicate that in cubase. Answer? close enough. So, one system for audio now. Not a lot of MIDI happening.
I do miss hardware. I hate the constant barrage of meaningless visuals.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 0:16:53 GMT -6
Well,
in the past Sonar missed some functionality where i found tracking and editing easier/faster elsewhere, tried Protools M-Audio ed. for that, and Reaper. But nowadays not anymore, Sonar has become very flexible and faster to use, esp. editing.
I have Mixbus as a "mixing only" tool. Because of it's simplistic hardware-like handling and great sound. I find it quite easy to learn (ardour), no problem with this.
If it jumps over to full midi capabilities of Ardour3, maybe that would be a reason to fully switch to it. But i would miss all integrated plugins/synths/effects that come with Sonar and are great value...
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Post by mobeach on Feb 19, 2014 5:51:43 GMT -6
Sonar definitely lacks ease of use. I never went beyond version 8 Studio.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 7:52:00 GMT -6
Sonar definitely lacks ease of use. I never went beyond version 8 Studio. Well, it changed alot since 8. |
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Post by watchtower on Feb 19, 2014 13:33:30 GMT -6
I started on Sonar, but decided to switch to Mac four years ago, and have been using Reaper since. I think tracking multiple takes could be a little bit easier, but otherwise, I have no complaints.
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Post by mobeach on Feb 19, 2014 14:16:34 GMT -6
Sonar definitely lacks ease of use. I never went beyond version 8 Studio. Well, it changed alot since 8. I remember hearing a lot of complaints when X1 came out, that's when I switched to Reaper. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2014 1:14:23 GMT -6
Yes,
X1 had alot of changes of paradigms, the first X versions seemed unready, partly unstable, like something "inbetween", and in fact i jumped from 8 directly X3 which seems to make many things right now and i get along with it pretty good now. That said, i have switched to it after i built a powerful i7 PC last year and it works without any instabilities and i started over learning all the new user interface things from ground up again to take full advantage of all changes, now i like skylight, smart tool, comping features etc...
A good thing - even the lowest version now has the majorities of features, same audio and mixing engine, unlimited tracks, busses etc.pp. and now includes the sonitus effects, everything very usable. I always try to demo every version by myself and decide and do not read too many reviews and forum stuff. It is normal that people having complaints write more than those who haven't......
Best regards,
Martin
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