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Post by chessparov on Aug 28, 2024 13:44:57 GMT -6
C12? One of the Usual (Icon) Suspects. It's Illegitimate Progeny with a (wayward) U47 is... The 251. Sony C800g rumored to be a distant Cousin. But DNA evidence was inconclusive. Chris
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Post by ericn on Aug 29, 2024 9:47:46 GMT -6
@monkey I thought originally a marketing or distribution contract lapsed so that the original c12 could no longer be supplied, so very minor changes were made and the new mike was called the 251? Later on they may have made further changes but not originally ? I know that I have read this was the case ? I think the story is something like this: Neumann was providing U47 to Telefunken. VF14 tubes stop being made so the U47 and U48 are discontinued. Telefunken needs a new flagship microphone. AKG is contracted to come up with something with a current production tube and they come up with the ELA M251, which of course is the "Telefunken 251." Not the AKG 251. It was something like starting with the AKG C12 design and pushing it more in the direction of the U47 to fill that gap. Hence the bigger body, more bass response, etc. No it was bigger than that, Telefunken was Neumann’s distribution arm through most of the world, you could literally go to Telefunken and buy an entire radio station except the building from them. Neumann realized that Telefunken had way too much power over Neumann and decided to end the deal. For their higher end clients Telefunken need a mic to compete with the 47/ 48/49’s so they went to AKG and asked them to develop a signature mic that would exclusively be sold through Telefunken.
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Post by thehightenor on Aug 31, 2024 2:57:39 GMT -6
The c12 is like a cream tea in Devon and the 251 is like a cream tea in Cornwall I just had cream tea in Wells next the sea in Norfolk - which mic is that?
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