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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 6, 2018 21:29:50 GMT -6
Hey bands...yes, you...don't play out until you sound like this...
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Post by yotonic on Jun 7, 2018 22:01:06 GMT -6
Such good times... feel so lucky to have been there. I forget how magical the scene was back then. A lot of it had to do with everyone being so sick of "Hair Bands" and LA metal shoved down our throats by radio. It was all Motley Crue, Ratt, Van Halen, Stryper, Poison, Steve Vai, Mr Big had "Just to be the next to be with you" in 1991..... Grunge was like our folk music. It was completely new and anti and alternative...for a moment And you had to know people and be part of a scene, because there was no Facebook, or cell phones. Some of the most amazing shows and crazy stories of my life I have only as shared memories with a select group of friends "who were there".
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Post by ragan on Jun 7, 2018 22:37:36 GMT -6
Such good times... feel so lucky to have been there. I forget how magical the scene was back then. A lot of it had to do with everyone being so sick of "Hair Bands" and LA metal shoved down our throats by radio. It was all Motley Crue, Ratt, Van Halen, Stryper, Poison, Steve Vai, Mr Big had "Just to be the next to be with you" in 1991..... Grunge was like our folk music. It was completely new and anti and alternative...for a moment And you had to know people and be part of a scene, because there was no Facebook, or cell phones. Some of the most amazing shows and crazy stories of my life I have only as shared memories with a select group of friends "who were there". You a fellow Seattleite??
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Post by yotonic on Jun 7, 2018 22:41:15 GMT -6
No but I was a traveling vagabond during those times, Seattle, San Francisco, LA, San Diego. Had a place in El Segundo that was home, before you had to be an LA King to live there...
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Post by ragan on Jun 7, 2018 23:47:52 GMT -6
That (totally sweet) early PJ video reminded me of this.
Crappy bar, looks like about 40 people there. The Tool dudes dicking around with their amps, taking their sweet time. But then they start playing and HOLY SHIT IT'S TOOL. The record is just right there. For those not as familiar with Opiate, later in the set they get into Undertow stuff, which was their breakout record.
Maynard's voice...good lord. Not to mention his thousand yard stare.
Edit: family friend of mine (Paul) on bass here.
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Post by guitfiddler on Jun 9, 2018 18:23:52 GMT -6
This was the Detroit Rock Scene before the changes hit the East Coast! Go To about 3:00 into to actually see the beginning...We were still doing big guitar solos! My favorite!
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Post by yotonic on Jun 10, 2018 1:21:40 GMT -6
Before the Undertow there was Oceansize...!!! The late 80s and early 90s in retrospect were off the charts as far as ground breaking bands; Tool, Janes, Rage, Soundgarden, The Cult, Ministry, Radiohead, Body Count... they were amazing times and I feel like that energy permeated society. Things today feel a little like Muzak in comparison. The composition and sound was so off the charts that the last thing anyone was talking about was compressors or vocal chains....
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Post by lcr on Aug 31, 2018 6:12:19 GMT -6
It was as if the scene (all the bands mentioned) were heavily influenced by 70’s genre’s. Not the same genre, but Folk / Neal Young or Prog Rock or Psychedelic rock. I think the industry realized these genre’s had a little more substance in the music other than “it’s a VH party! “ Im not afraid to admit, I like(ed) hair metal and VH. I occasionally partake even nowadays. I had a little short lived Ratt revisit a few months back. One of those albums had some great guitar tone.
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Post by lcr on Aug 31, 2018 6:15:22 GMT -6
I saw the Nothing Shocking tour, Ritual tour, Tool every tour.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 12, 2018 0:29:04 GMT -6
Are PJ still touring .
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Post by keymod on Sept 12, 2018 4:29:58 GMT -6
I believe they just did a concert in Boston at Fenway Park
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Post by Martin John Butler on Sept 13, 2018 17:47:56 GMT -6
OK, that was cool. I've seen this before and was definitely impressed by Pearl Jam's sound then, They were clearly aiming for the big time, or at least seriously great R&R.
Since this music was done in 1991, I though I'd share this live recording of me in 1991. Sound quality's not so great, so turn it up. The band was only a few weeks old here. I got really close to a major deal, but just couldn't afford to keep paying for everything, and some of the players were so good, they got better offers and had to go.
The Mercy Train
https%3A//soundcloud.com/martin-john-butler/when-the-rain-comesthe-mercy-train
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 15, 2018 13:07:40 GMT -6
It was as if the scene (all the bands mentioned) were heavily influenced by 70’s genre’s. Not the same genre, but Folk / Neal Young or Prog Rock or Psychedelic rock. I think the industry realized these genre’s had a little more substance in the music other than “it’s a VH party! “ Im not afraid to admit, I like(ed) hair metal and VH. I occasionally partake even nowadays. I had a little short lived Ratt revisit a few months back. One of those albums had some great guitar tone. Most people don't realize how heavily it was influenced by the SF punk/art-punk scene of the late '70s and early '80s. Crime, The Nuns, The Avengers, Flipper....
Speaking of Crime, Johnny Strike just died - cancer...
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Post by lcr on Sept 15, 2018 13:54:27 GMT -6
Wow, Ive only heard of flipper and not sure Ive ever heard any of it. Maybe I should explore the bands mentioned.
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