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Post by mrholmes on Apr 2, 2018 13:43:35 GMT -6
RGOs.
Does annyone knows how I can route the kick-drum to a different output?
Default is for kick in and SD always a stereo track - only god knows why this is stereo.
I want to run some real gear on it and I need the kick on a Mono-Strip for this.
I cant find a way to route the kick to a different output.
In EXS 24 its easy, but DKD.
Anyone has a hint for me to look in the right direction.
Cheers
Holmes
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 2, 2018 14:13:18 GMT -6
Is it a producer kit and have you opened it up?
Going to OB or software ?
If OB, can’t you use utility I/o plug in ?
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Post by M57 on Apr 2, 2018 15:14:29 GMT -6
Can you send it to a mono buss, then route the buss? I've had weird dealings with the I/O utility, but kcatthedog is right. That's the way to go because it keeps everything time aligned. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 2, 2018 15:20:19 GMT -6
Good luck, I've only used Superior Drummer, but should learn Logic's Drummer one of these days.
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Post by popmann on Apr 2, 2018 19:34:16 GMT -6
Silly that they're stereo....I don't know of a simple way to do that. I mean to render you can assign the Drum3-4 output to a mono buss.....and render the buss rather than the "DKD output channel" as the kickIN (or whichever)....
But, you know--Superior Drummer is the same bullshit. It's ALL stereo outputs. I had to create an elaborate template of bussed processed outputs to record it for this project.
I think it must be less confusing to someone with less experience to always have stereo even when the mic/sample isn't stereo.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 2, 2018 20:10:27 GMT -6
I always assumed the multichannel superior drummer outputs were mono. Now i’ll have to go back and take a closer look.
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 2, 2018 20:21:36 GMT -6
Silly that they're stereo....I don't know of a simple way to do that. I mean to render you can assign the Drum3-4 output to a mono buss.....and render the buss rather than the "DKD output channel" as the kickIN (or whichever).... But, you know--Superior Drummer is the same bullshit. It's ALL stereo outputs. I had to create an elaborate template of bussed processed outputs to record it for this project. I think it must be less confusing to someone with less experience to always have stereo even when the mic/sample isn't stereo. is right...routing to a mono bus and than using the hardware is the only non time wasting way. Its easy in all drum software tools I have, not in DKD. And its still stupid that the HH mapping is not following GM....I wish I could use BFD or XLN .....but they don't want other samplers using DKD.🙏 |
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Post by M57 on Apr 3, 2018 6:46:08 GMT -6
This is a semi-related Logic question - Let's say I want to bounce/export a mono file. How do I do this? Everything I bounce always ends up as a stereo file. I'm pretty sure that's because I'm bouncing from the 2 buss, which uhmm.. has a 2 in it.
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 3, 2018 6:54:58 GMT -6
Try this:
So for example when bouncing a region on a mono track with mono plug-ins but with a stereo output, if you deselect "Include Volume and Pan", you'll be bouncing a mono file, but if you select it, you're bouncing a stereo file.
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Post by M57 on Apr 3, 2018 8:50:00 GMT -6
Try this: So for example when bouncing a region on a mono track with mono plug-ins but with a stereo output, if you deselect "Include Volume and Pan", you'll be bouncing a mono file, but if you select it, you're bouncing a stereo file. Thanks. I can't wait to try this! |
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 3, 2018 9:08:14 GMT -6
just found it on the net: seems it should work ?
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Post by jeremygillespie on Apr 3, 2018 9:47:29 GMT -6
This is a semi-related Logic question - Let's say I want to bounce/export a mono file. How do I do this? Everything I bounce always ends up as a stereo file. I'm pretty sure that's because I'm bouncing from the 2 buss, which uhmm.. has a 2 in it. I always wondered this myself, not as a Logic user but as somebody that receives tracks from Logic users to mix or use in a production. I ALWAYS get stereo files and then have to go through and figure out what exactly is stereo. Your kick drum mic is 1 mic. It should be a mono file haha. By the time I get that through to the client and have them resend the files, its easier for me to just do it myself. But man... what a PITA! |
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Post by M57 on Apr 3, 2018 10:53:22 GMT -6
I always wondered this myself, not as a Logic user but as somebody that receives tracks from Logic users to mix or use in a production. I ALWAYS get stereo files and then have to go through and figure out what exactly is stereo. I'll report back, and if it works - then you can tell them what to do in the future. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 3, 2018 13:09:01 GMT -6
Cool, looking forward to seeing if this works.
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Post by M57 on Apr 3, 2018 17:37:19 GMT -6
I always wondered this myself, not as a Logic user but as somebody that receives tracks from Logic users to mix or use in a production. I ALWAYS get stereo files and then have to go through and figure out what exactly is stereo. I'll report back, and if it works - then you can tell them what to do in the future. It works! Did a quick test recording, put a mono effect on it to make sure, then File->Export->(1 region selected) ..making sure that everything was unchecked, especially (include volume/pan automation), and it created a mono track.. I've never had people complain about problems when I've sent them stereo (mono) tracks, but when I send mono tracks in the future, this will just feel much more professional (not to mention it'll be half the file size  ) |
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Post by popmann on Apr 3, 2018 19:22:33 GMT -6
Good to learn to use your app properly  , but FWIW this doesn't solve the challenge of the instruments (Superior and DKD) not HAVING mono outputs. You have to assign them to mono busses and render through those. Or just live with the stupid "stereo file of mono content".....inside Logic, it's mitigated by simply clicking the channel to mono--then all the plug ins run in mono....it's mostly irrelevant inside logic. Which is why they don't care, I guess. Create a solution to the problem you created, you know? |
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 4, 2018 0:48:04 GMT -6
Over the time with Apple I learned that they have the better ideas compared to my German friends at Emagic....but thier code is too ofton sloppy. The lazy codeing made version 7 a tool for Nasa Astronauts. 8 was egetting better. 9 was intuitive again. My impression is, that the BS starts again.
I don't need 5 different ways to solve a problem...I need one working solution. Apple please don't fuck logic up again....😉
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 4, 2018 7:45:16 GMT -6
Their upgrades to the EQ's and reverb were great last time, but some functions are still convoluted.
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 7, 2018 0:01:45 GMT -6
mrholmes to solve your original request: it's been quite awhile since I needed to do this, but I'm pretty sure you can just hold down 'option' when selecting your first plugin ('Gain,' for instance), and make the channel into a mono track right there. Then use the I/O plug or whatever you need to do.
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, but FWIW this doesn't solve the challenge of the instruments (Superior and DKD) not HAVING mono outputs. 