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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 28, 2014 19:26:10 GMT -6
I thought there was a previous thread about this, but I can't find it...I'm really thinking about jumping in. Anyone using it with success? The low buffers, the offline bounce...it's beginning to be more than I can resist. How does it work with PT10? You just close one and open the other? Has Slate VCC been ported over?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 28, 2014 19:35:39 GMT -6
No VCC, no VTM, no glue. Offline bounce is nice. I have 10 and 11 both installed. No problems going between the two for me. Smooth sailing here (knock on wood).
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Post by matt on Jan 28, 2014 21:53:50 GMT -6
I am on PT11 and never going back. v11 blows away v10 from a CPU utilization perspective on my system. Sessions running 30-50%+ cpu for v10 on the Mini now run at 10-20% (or less) on the new engine. In fact, at 1024 samples, I can run BFD3 and loads of native plugs and the system is not stressed in the slightest. And for me, it's also been stable.
Sure, there are some laggards in the plug world on aax adoption. But with UAD, Waves, Fabfilter, Exponential, McDSP, and others already supporting aax (some for mac only), I am good to go. It will be good to see Lexicon, Relab and Slate jump on board, but it's inevitable, they really have no choice. Just a matter of time.
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Post by Ward on Jan 28, 2014 22:49:43 GMT -6
What's the going rate now for the 10 to 11 upgrade?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 29, 2014 6:16:03 GMT -6
What's the going rate now for the 10 to 11 upgrade? Education price was $99. Can't beat that. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 29, 2014 6:42:54 GMT -6
$299 I think...
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Post by wreck on Jan 29, 2014 9:27:50 GMT -6
I need Massey and Slate to make the jump. McDSP and Waves comps and limiters just don't do it for me. L2007, VTM and FGX are my stereo buss,plus an eq. Cranking out tunes in 10 until these guys get AAX out. Just can't take Waves on the buss. Not worth the jump if I can get it done in 10. I did try it when it first came out and the CPU situation is much better. Offline bounce is super cool for quick delivery when you are done and sick of hearing the song. Of course, I never make it through the first bounce . . . always hear something I need to tweak, so I don't know that off line bounce helps the mixing process. But it does get you out of the studio faster at the end of the night.
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Post by WKG on Jan 29, 2014 14:17:32 GMT -6
I bounce back and forth between 10 and 11. I'd much refer to work in 11 only but still waiting for a few plugs to get to AAX64, Slate VCC, VTM amongst them. Most others that haven't been ported I've found replacements for. There are still a few PSP I'd like to see and getting the Massey stuff in 11 would be nice, I miss the TD5 delay and the L2007.
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Post by popmann on Jan 29, 2014 15:04:36 GMT -6
You guys be sure to test the offline bounce phase canceling it with a real time. Steinberg has had it for YEARS...actually-I don't remember them ever having to be real time...BUT...it's also not going to cancel. A lot of AUDIO plug ins (though I don't know how they implement AAX) have different settings for offline vs real time processing...and I've found that BFD2, as an example will have issues with cymbals choking...
Anyway--I don't really have a lot of use for offline here because I've got external gear integrated...but, part of the reason I still use that is because in my own tests, I don't trust offline bouncing in Cubase over several versions. Mind you--I'm not suggesting offline bouncing is "bad"--but, I kinda get OCD about it changing things. Changing the oversampling in Slate VCC, for example will render the balance skewed. Changing the over sampling in a Aether or other reverbs might yeild a nicer smooth reverb--but, it's also DIFFERENT than you've heard the whole mix by definition. Better....worse...these are subjective things...and different plugs may or may not have a balance altering effect...but, I'm just saying--test. Don't take for granted that real time is the same as offline.
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 29, 2014 15:10:39 GMT -6
Hey guys, have they got PT11 figured out for Mavericks yet?? I'm still cruising on 10, but I can't go to 11 because my OS is still 10.6.8. I'd rather upgrade for free to Mavericks, but if it's still squirley I'll just hang on to my current flow.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 29, 2014 15:29:00 GMT -6
I only use offline for quick bounces, not final tracks, but I'm curious if they null. I'll have to test.
I'm only on 10.8 right now. Not planning on moving unless I need to.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 29, 2014 17:22:19 GMT -6
Hey guys, have they got PT11 figured out for Mavericks yet?? I'm still cruising on 10, but I can't go to 11 because my OS is still 10.6.8. I'd rather upgrade for free to Mavericks, but if it's still squirley I'll just hang on to my current flow. Glad you mentioned that...I didn't even think about it... |
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Post by Mark Kano on Jan 29, 2014 17:51:01 GMT -6
I'm running 10 and 11 on Mavericks with no issues. 11 is totally worth it for the performance alone.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 29, 2014 17:57:19 GMT -6
What version of Waves works in PT? 9.14?
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Post by Mark Kano on Jan 30, 2014 10:02:02 GMT -6
That's right. V9r14 or now 15
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Post by keymod on Jan 30, 2014 10:38:48 GMT -6
PT11 is the first version which has made me consider adding myself to the user ranks.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 30, 2014 17:38:09 GMT -6
running 10/11 on mavericks on a 2012 mbp with apollo 7.4.1
and just downloaded the waves schepps 73 demo works fine in 10 and 11
when you buy the upgrade you give up your current license but that is ok cus avid gives you another 10, which is a bridge to 11 , you co -install them and can run both on the same computer and you can open 10 session in 11
blue cat audio patch and mixer plugs and vienna pro ensemble let you run non aax 64 bit plugs in 11
the pro tools expert videos from when 11 was released show it being significantly more efficient than 10, a session that killed 10 runs fine on 11, so running 11 is kind of like getting a big performance boost to your current computer
I am running relab 480, and kush plugs in blue cat mixer skin in 11
go for it !
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Post by popmann on Jan 30, 2014 17:45:17 GMT -6
PT11 is the first version which has made me consider adding myself to the user ranks. I'm curious why? I see tons of incompatibility-including most of their first party expensive stuff from the past...a few features everyone else has had for years and years...what am I missing here? Is there any actual audio production advantage? Being more CPU efficient than they used to be is meaningless since they used to be twice Steinberg's overhead...so...that's just playing catch up. What is the killer feature I'm missing in PT11 that has new users wanting to use it and old ones retiring tens of thousands of dollars in old hardware in order to use it? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 30, 2014 18:22:24 GMT -6
Well - when I demo'd PT11, it was waaaay more efficient than Cubase 7.x.
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Post by popmann on Jan 30, 2014 20:38:58 GMT -6
CPU wise? Or you mean workflow? I'm talking CPU. Hosting plug ins.
I've never touched 7, and never really plan to...especially if they've done something to no longer be CPU efficient.
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Post by popmann on Jan 30, 2014 20:47:01 GMT -6
Oh....you're running with CoreAudio. That could be--that ran horribly last time I tried it....by accident. I can see that.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 30, 2014 21:28:26 GMT -6
I'm talking about hosting plugs and VST's..
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Post by keymod on Jan 31, 2014 5:25:52 GMT -6
Well, when I say "consider" it certainly is a loaded word. I am happily using Cubase 6.5.5 and Samplitude 11Pro. I am, by no means, needing to jump ship. Just a "maybe", as a third option. I would be starting fresh, so backwards compatability would be a moot point. The fact that I can use all of my existing hardware and that it runs natively make it a possibility.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 31, 2014 9:56:07 GMT -6
Seems like I read somewhere (maybe in this thread) that you have to install a new version of PT 10? Couldn't I just install 11 ust like I did with the demo?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 31, 2014 10:01:11 GMT -6
It depends which version of 10 you have. I upgraded 10.2 to 10.3 (not positive on the numbers actually) then installed 11 and have them co installed. Then I downloaded all the frestest installers for all my plugs to get them running on 11. Currently, I'm still waiting on Softube Saturation, Slate VCC/VTM, The Glue, and Vahalla Verbs (which may be here now). The rest of my stuff is good to go.
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