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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 9, 2018 18:22:36 GMT -6
Wow...Killer, killer feature to be able to use SHIFT + CMD and the up/down arrows to cycle though a highlighted area in the waveform view. That literally cut my normal comping time in half.
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Post by wiz on Feb 9, 2018 18:56:37 GMT -6
Wow...Killer, killer feature to be able to use SHIFT + CMD and the up/down arrows to cycle though a highlighted area in the waveform view. That literally cut my normal comping time in half. I don't use pro tools, but feel your joy when your DAW comes out with something that makes stuff easier and faster.. Cheers Wiz |
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Post by ragan on Feb 9, 2018 18:56:55 GMT -6
Ooh. Damn. I'd heard the comping was improved but not heard how.
That description gives me Efficiency Goosebumps. I might buy it just for that.
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Post by mikec on Feb 9, 2018 22:11:17 GMT -6
The new comping feature really is great.
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Feb 10, 2018 2:53:30 GMT -6
This is probably a great improvement. (i am still on PT11)
But I always find it amazing how DAW manufactures tout these really small changes that probably take a few hours/days to programming as major features.
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Post by kilroyrock on Feb 13, 2018 12:37:52 GMT -6
so if you have more than one recording in that measure on that track, you can highlight and it'll switch between the layers?
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Post by mikec on Feb 13, 2018 12:59:05 GMT -6
so if you have more than one recording in that measure on that track, you can highlight and it'll switch between the layers? If you have multiple layers and maybe you like everything about your last take except for one section you can highlight that section, hold down command and shift and then just use the up and down arrows to cycle through your different takes/layers on that track to see if you like something better for the highlighted section. For me, this has become my favorite comping method. |
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Post by kilroyrock on Feb 13, 2018 13:20:57 GMT -6
so if you have more than one recording in that measure on that track, you can highlight and it'll switch between the layers? If you have multiple layers and maybe you like everything about your last take except for one section you can highlight that section, hold down command and shift and then just use the up and down arrows to cycle through your different takes/layers on that track to see if you like something better for the highlighted section. For me, this has become my favorite comping method. Well damn, finally something i'd use to make me think about upgrading to PT<Not 11.3.1>.. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 13, 2018 14:56:42 GMT -6
Not sure how it is in Logic, but I think it’s similar to Cubase...I like having he comp tool where you can highlight the take you want to hear and then switch around. This PT method is great though because you don’t have to change the view at all. I’ve had a few times I’ve had to open the lanes to compare takes that were several takes apart. It’s hard to remember which takes you like when you’re just cycling through.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Feb 13, 2018 18:03:07 GMT -6
Not sure how it is in Logic, but I think it’s similar to Cubase...I like having he comp tool where you can highlight the take you want to hear and then switch around. This PT method is great though because you don’t have to change the view at all. I’ve had a few times I’ve had to open the lanes to compare takes that were several takes apart. It’s hard to remember which takes you like when you’re just cycling through. In Cubase it's a one handed thing. Left click and hold, then slide to desired length. Crossfade with the X key, done. But it sounds like PT is on the right track with this. Editing is the very reason I wouldn't fool with it. I'd love to use PT but it just seems too complicated to learn. I'm a Mac guy. I've no interest in writing code so to speak. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 13, 2018 20:45:35 GMT -6
Editing in PT - in my opinion - is still easier than Cubase. I love the multi tool in PT - now THAT's a one handed tool.
BTW - Crossfade is funky in Cubase for me. Sometimes, if I have more than one take, it will CF the entire region or whatever. Seems like a bug. And I STILL have the record enable bug in Cubase. Had it for 10 years now. All of a sudden, The first track in the session record enables and it can't be switched off. Doesn't matter what it is - you can move that track around and whatever is the first track just stays in red. Frustrating. Doesn't happen all the time and I can't seem to figure out what's causing it.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Feb 14, 2018 2:12:34 GMT -6
Hmm, never had that record enable thing happen to me. That does sound weird.
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Post by gouge on Feb 14, 2018 3:21:10 GMT -6
I dont wanna be that guy but in
Reaper you just hit the t key to cycle through takes
I'm a bit surprised pt and cubase require more than one key to do this.
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Post by jeromemason on Feb 14, 2018 3:28:46 GMT -6
Seems like Avid heard the voices screaming about some things for sure. I still don't get whey they won't allow non HD the ability to utilize more than 32 I/O and the fact that inserts have to be on the exact same I/O channel. These days it's becoming more and more common to use a combination of interfaces and converters, in Cubase it's not an issue because you can route near about any available input to whatever output you want. In Protools to use more than one interface you have to do an Aggregate device, the I/O almost never lines up, and even some interfaces out there have a mismatch in their I/O routing.
I think Protools could learn a few valuable lessons from Cubase and vice versa. I think Protools is just doing what they're doing to make HD something people still need to buy into to release the I/O expansion. Protools HD Native, I almost LOL'd when I saw that. The whole reason for HD is to utilize the processing on board to take the load of the host. Now that Mac's and PC's have basically blown way past the need for HD and the invention of Thunderbolt/USB3 has put the latency near zero. I can only imagine what it's going to be like in 5 years when you look back at how far we've come in the last 5.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 14, 2018 7:24:41 GMT -6
No doubt PT has been the slowest to change and innovate after annotating the whole thing...but since 12, there have been some really fantastic things to come along. This comping, the ability to freeze all channels - even aux’s. Offline bounce - yes - they finally relented. Etc
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 14, 2018 7:25:40 GMT -6
Hmm, never had that record enable thing happen to me. That does sound weird. I’ve posted to the Cubase board multiple times about it. There are a few other people that have a similar problem, but no acknowledgement. |
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Post by Ward on Feb 14, 2018 9:07:08 GMT -6
Wow...Killer, killer feature to be able to use SHIFT + CMD and the up/down arrows to cycle though a highlighted area in the waveform view. That literally cut my normal comping time in half. DAMMIT... I don't want to upgrade, but this will save me hours per song. Per vocal! |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Feb 14, 2018 15:21:08 GMT -6
PT is slow to change because people, especially in post-production, need to be able to walk into a $500/hour studio and simply go to work using the same shortcuts they've used for a decade or more or brought in some macros to use. You don't replace the steering wheel or move the gas and brake pedals on a car for the same reason. Pro Tools was first and thus defined a lot of the basics people use every day. I don't envy the work that must be involved in adding new features.
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