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Post by marten on Jan 11, 2018 8:39:18 GMT -6
Are you guys buying gear without knowing it even exist or how does it sound? Yet I'm not even talking about quality of construction and assembling. Yes. Fascinating
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 11, 2018 9:15:07 GMT -6
Are you guys buying gear without knowing it even exist or how does it sound? Yet I'm not even talking about quality of construction and assembling. I think Stam has proven himself, so not exactly completely blind. He doesn't put out junk and his word is good. Granted, the production timelines are a loose guideline at best, but I believe he's trying to better that. We're getting great gear at great prices by buying direct, no middle man markup. I feel we're in the midst of a recording gear revolution of sorts. Great quality outboard at affordable prices. It used to be it was either top shelf, high dollar or budget Behringer/Mackie stuff. I, for one, love the boutique explosion.
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Post by lcr on Jan 11, 2018 9:17:46 GMT -6
Yes, hardware and software, good times.
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Post by stam on Jan 11, 2018 9:41:15 GMT -6
Are you guys buying gear without knowing it even exist or how does it sound? Yet I'm not even talking about quality of construction and assembling. The quality of the components is listed. Premium transformers, premium inductors and capacitors equals an excellent sounding unit. The assembly will the same quality as always Also, most of people reserving are returning customers, they know what to expect (delays, poor communication skills and the best clones you can find anywhere at the best price)..... Just joking, I am getting rid of delays, February will be a game changer for us, we expect to be up to date with all pre/orders in March and from then onwards have stock on all units, slowly getting there 10 left by the way at the 769.00 price
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Post by forgotteng on Jan 11, 2018 10:09:09 GMT -6
Are you guys buying gear without knowing it even exist or how does it sound? Yet I'm not even talking about quality of construction and assembling. I think Stam has proven himself, so not exactly completely blind. He doesn't put out junk and his word is good. Granted, the production timelines are a loose guideline at best, but I believe he's trying to better that. We're getting great gear at great prices by buying direct, no middle man markup. I feel we're in the midst of a recording gear revolution of sorts. Great quality outboard at affordable prices. It used to be it was either top shelf, high dollar or budget Behringer/Mackie stuff. I, for one, love the boutique explosion. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Post by pope on Jan 11, 2018 10:31:09 GMT -6
The quality of the components is listed. Premium transformers, premium inductors and capacitors equals an excellent sounding unit. Photo of the guts? It should look nice BTW, I have yet to find a clone that will sound as good as a real pultec. Saying that, the "Pulse Techniques" sound really great and very very close to the original ones, or at least to the OG I have used. Of course they're not cheap and for a reason if you ask me. So, although I'm sure the stam will sound good, I do have my doubts on whether it will sound as good as an OG. I think I'll pull the trigger and if I don't like it, oh well... It should be fairly easy to sell it 2nd hand.
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Post by marten on Jan 11, 2018 12:19:30 GMT -6
Are you guys buying gear without knowing it even exist or how does it sound? Yet I'm not even talking about quality of construction and assembling. The quality of the components is listed. Premium transformers, premium inductors and capacitors equals an excellent sounding unit. The assembly will the same quality as always Also, most of people reserving are returning customers, they know what to expect (delays, poor communication skills and the best clones you can find anywhere at the best price)..... Just joking, I am getting rid of delays, February will be a game changer for us, we expect to be up to date with all pre/orders in March and from then onwards have stock on all units, slowly getting there 10 left by the way at the 769.00 price Quality of parts don't equal quality of assembly and design. I've seen your work on your 4000 compressor which reflects perfectly your low asking price. Far away from "boutique" construction if that means anything. If business is good than good for you. Cheers!
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 11, 2018 12:31:04 GMT -6
Everyone has a right to their opinion. I have a stam 4000 and it works perfectly and it traveled 1,000's of miles to get to my rack: seems to me the build quality and QC are good enuff ?
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Post by stam on Jan 11, 2018 12:55:18 GMT -6
The quality of the components is listed. Premium transformers, premium inductors and capacitors equals an excellent sounding unit. The assembly will the same quality as always Also, most of people reserving are returning customers, they know what to expect (delays, poor communication skills and the best clones you can find anywhere at the best price)..... Just joking, I am getting rid of delays, February will be a game changer for us, we expect to be up to date with all pre/orders in March and from then onwards have stock on all units, slowly getting there 10 left by the way at the 769.00 price Quality of parts don't equal quality of assembly and design. I've seen your work on your 4000 compressor which reflects perfectly your low asking price. Far away from "boutique" construction if that means anything. If business is good than good for you. Cheers! There is nothing wrong with the construction, what reflects he low asking price?
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Post by notneeson on Jan 11, 2018 13:14:07 GMT -6
Quality of parts don't equal quality of assembly and design. I've seen your work on your 4000 compressor which reflects perfectly your low asking price. Far away from "boutique" construction if that means anything. If business is good than good for you. Cheers! There is nothing wrong with the construction, what reflects he low asking price? I have a Stam 4000 and have been using a real SSL G384 for almost 7 years. Build quality, from a user standpoint, feels quite similar. I'm still not over the TRS thing, but that's a separate issue. Perhaps Marten can explain what he means by "boutique"? Should we be assuming SSL doesn't rate?
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Post by ericn on Jan 11, 2018 13:27:27 GMT -6
m Nothing that new about this concept, inital orders have been an important part of this industry forever. In the case of smaller manufacturers it's what's kept them going.
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Post by forgotteng on Jan 11, 2018 13:50:19 GMT -6
Well here we go again with talking about peoples perspectives on things but I'm never looking for something to sound exactly like something else. I can respect a lot of you operators are coming from using the originals and have different goals in mind. For me it's all about inspiration and effectiveness. Eq's are like guitar pedals to me. If i'm looking for a sound I turn knobs until it makes me feel good. Period....... I'm not looking for it to sound like something else. If I can dial it in in a few seconds I move on. It's almost obnoxious to throw stones at Joshua because his $700 eq doesn't sound like the $4000 classic.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 11, 2018 13:59:13 GMT -6
I'm 100% satisfied with my SA-2A. Great unit.
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Post by ragan on Jan 11, 2018 14:01:21 GMT -6
...It's almost obnoxious to throw stones at Joshua because his $700 eq doesn't sound like the $4000 classic. Particularly given that there is, at this point, absolutely no way to evaluate whether it does or doesn't.
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Post by marten on Jan 11, 2018 14:11:02 GMT -6
Quality of parts don't equal quality of assembly and design. I've seen your work on your 4000 compressor which reflects perfectly your low asking price. Far away from "boutique" construction if that means anything. If business is good than good for you. Cheers! There is nothing wrong with the construction, what reflects he low asking price? Ford was saying the same thing about their Pinto.
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Post by marten on Jan 11, 2018 14:14:03 GMT -6
Perhaps Marten can explain what he means by "boutique"? Should we be assuming SSL doesn't rate? I'm not the one who brought up Stam products into "boutique" theritory. Sorry but they are not. Are you really comparing Stam and SSL?
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Post by marten on Jan 11, 2018 14:15:17 GMT -6
m Nothing that new about this concept, inital orders have been an important part of this industry forever. In the case of smaller manufacturers it's what's kept them going. Indeed nothing new but it still fascinates me just like musicians ordering instruments online.
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Post by ragan on Jan 11, 2018 14:42:22 GMT -6
I'm not the one who brought up Stam products into "boutique" theritory. Sorry but they are not. Are you really comparing Stam and SSL? It's a good thing for us musicians/engineers that the electrons don't share your dogma re: branding.
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Post by c0rtland on Jan 11, 2018 14:48:33 GMT -6
There is nothing wrong with the construction, what reflects he low asking price? Ford was saying the same thing about their Pinto. Tough crowd.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 11, 2018 14:57:40 GMT -6
My friend Steve Remote has an SSL, he's matched the Stam 4000 to it, and said once you dial it in, "it's indistinguishable". I'll take his word for it, and keep lusting after some cool Stam gear, thank you very much.
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Post by nomatic on Jan 11, 2018 15:07:13 GMT -6
I have had a Dramatic obsidian and a Allen Smart and the Stam hangs with both! A really great piece of gear. I will probably get a couple of these new EQs!
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Post by forgotteng on Jan 11, 2018 15:48:32 GMT -6
I don't want to pretend I understand your position marten or what happened to you to make you dislike Stan but..... Hey it's a free country and I just think your wrong. Not sure what your definition of boutique is.
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Post by ragan on Jan 11, 2018 15:59:46 GMT -6
I don't want to pretend I understand your position marten or what happened to you to make you dislike Stan but..... Hey it's a free country and I just think your wrong. Not sure what your definition of boutique is. I strongly suspect his is a quantitative rather than qualitative argrument. “Boutique” > $X “Crap” < $X
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Post by pope on Jan 11, 2018 16:04:13 GMT -6
My friend Steve Remote has an SSL, he's matched the Stam 4000 to it, and said once you dial it in, "it's indistinguishable". I'll take his word for it, and keep lusting after some cool Stam gear, thank you very much. Different technology though. I would think that it's much easier to make an SSL clone sound "indistinguishable" to the original than doing that with a Pultec clone, or any other gear that has inductors and transformers for that matter. That's a general observation by the way. I'm not saying that the stam won't sound good. I'm only saying that I'd be very surprised if it sounds any similar to the original. Obviously many people don't care, which is fair enough Looking forward to hearing this thing. Stam, I'll try for the 3rd time.... I love looking into gear's guts. Any chance you'll share a photo with us?
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Post by notneeson on Jan 11, 2018 17:03:17 GMT -6
I'm not the one who brought up Stam products into "boutique" theritory. Sorry but they are not. Are you really comparing Stam and SSL? Yes, they are quite comparable to me, a frequent user who who gets paid to record music and other stuff.
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