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Post by raddistribution on Jan 8, 2018 12:33:24 GMT -6
Introducing: the Avantone AV10MHF and AV10MLF NS10 replacement drivers Since Yamaha discontinued the iconic NS10M, the supply of aftermarket components has become more and more expensive and less and less available. Avantone Pro has done an exact reverse engineering of the original drivers. Using our global resources and decade of experience in driver construction, we have reproduced the components faithfully, updating the materials to comply with RoHS requirements. The Low Frequency driver, AV10MLF, is a near exact match from 20Hz to the crossover frequency. We have changed the cone design from a lapped seam to a single continuous press formed cone from the same supplier as the original. This allows a much higher level of quality control and consistency during the manufacturing process. The AV10MHF is a match throughout the frequency range, engineered with the same voicing as the original. Both replacement drivers are physically and dimensionally exactly the same as the originals and are a “bolt in” hassle free install that require no changes to the cabinet in the installation process. These will begin shipping at the end of Q1. Pricing AV10MHF: $119 MAP AV10MLF: $149 MAP Attachments:
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Post by svart on Jan 8, 2018 12:39:19 GMT -6
That's cool. Private industry FTW once again.
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Post by m03 on Jan 8, 2018 13:03:20 GMT -6
Neat. I wonder if there plans to release a "complete" solution with cabinets etc.
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Post by ericn on Jan 8, 2018 13:11:45 GMT -6
Neat. I wonder if there plans to release a "complete" solution with cabinets etc. I was wondering this as well, at the very least you can now have consistent left to right NS10's for the first time! |
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Post by raddistribution on Jan 8, 2018 14:38:46 GMT -6
Neat. I wonder if there plans to release a "complete" solution with cabinets etc. I was wondering this as well, at the very least you can now have consistent left to right NS10's for the first time! There are absolutely plans for a "bigger picture" in the future when it comes to these products but we figure there a LOT more people that need replacement drivers that are affordable, available and have a consistent voicing than the number of people that want to buy new ns10s. |
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Post by ericn on Jan 8, 2018 17:55:27 GMT -6
I was wondering this as well, at the very least you can now have consistent left to right NS10's for the first time! There are absolutely plans for a "bigger picture" in the future when it comes to these products but we figure there a LOT more people that need replacement drivers that are affordable, available and have a consistent voicing than the number of people that want to buy new ns10s. Right choice! I also know in the world of Speaker drivers the words "made in China" are often feared, but many both consumer and pro manufacturers have found Chinese vendors not only less expensive, but far more consistent and a far lower reject rate for many of the pickiest! If you do build a modern ns10 reproduction , please don't reproduce the absolute crappy leaky cabinets, even if it changes the perceived sound!😎 |
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Post by winetree on Jan 8, 2018 18:50:22 GMT -6
And while you're replacing the woofers, replace the capacitors in the crossover with better ones.
Big difference. Clarity, imaging, depth to field. etc. Well worth it.
And fuse the tweeters. At $300. a pair it's cheaper to replace a 25 cent fuse.
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Jan 8, 2018 19:31:02 GMT -6
And while you're replacing the woofers, replace the capacitors in the crossover with better ones. Big difference. Clarity, imaging, depth to field. etc. Well worth it. And fuse the tweeters. At $300. a pair it's cheaper to replace a 25 cent fuse. I should really fuse my tweeters sometime. How common is if for people to change the crossover capacitors I wonder? |
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Post by ericn on Jan 8, 2018 22:39:52 GMT -6
And while you're replacing the woofers, replace the capacitors in the crossover with better ones. Big difference. Clarity, imaging, depth to field. etc. Well worth it. And fuse the tweeters. At $300. a pair it's cheaper to replace a 25 cent fuse. I should really fuse my tweeters sometime. How common is if for people to change the crossover capacitors I wonder? It depends if they want them to sound good very common, if they want them to sound like NS10's not common at all😎 Seriously, these were originally cheap consumer crap, of course the caps should be replaced, the NS10 started out as part of Yamaha's version of a JC Penny all in one system ! A completely rebuilt crossover these drivers and a tube of acoustic calk would be a major improvement! |
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Post by ericn on Jan 8, 2018 22:41:19 GMT -6
And while you're replacing the woofers, replace the capacitors in the crossover with better ones. Big difference. Clarity, imaging, depth to field. etc. Well worth it. And fuse the tweeters. At $300. a pair it's cheaper to replace a 25 cent fuse. Yeah but if you buy a pair of these tweets I'll bet you could get away with replacing single tweets if they blew 😎 |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 9, 2018 8:35:59 GMT -6
Very cool. I’d be interested in checking out a set. I have 2 full pairs of tweets and woof replacements but it’s good to know they are being made again.
I use the newer style tweeter with the foam surround, these look like the older ones. Wonder if they plan on making both styles in the future...
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 9, 2018 8:50:23 GMT -6
Introducing: the Avantone AV10MHF and AV10MLF NS10 replacement drivers Since Yamaha discontinued the iconic NS10M, the supply of aftermarket components has become more and more expensive and less and less available. Avantone Pro has done an exact reverse engineering of the original drivers. Using our global resources and decade of experience in driver construction, we have reproduced the components faithfully, updating the materials to comply with RoHS requirements. The Low Frequency driver, AV10MLF, is a near exact match from 20Hz to the crossover frequency. We have changed the cone design from a lapped seam to a single continuous press formed cone from the same supplier as the original. This allows a much higher level of quality control and consistency during the manufacturing process. The AV10MHF is a match throughout the frequency range, engineered with the same voicing as the original. Both replacement drivers are physically and dimensionally exactly the same as the originals and are a “bolt in” hassle free install that require no changes to the cabinet in the installation process. These will begin shipping at the end of Q1. Pricing AV10MHF: $119 MAP AV10MLF: $149 MAP I’ll take two of each right now. Just let me know where to send the money. |
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Post by deehope on Jan 9, 2018 12:35:26 GMT -6
The timing couldnt be any more perfect for me. One of my woofers is shorting, definitly going. Would you change just that one or the pair?
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Post by ericn on Jan 9, 2018 13:05:38 GMT -6
The timing couldnt be any more perfect for me. One of my woofers is shorting, definitly going. Would you change just that one or the pair? Dee Since these are a slightly different cone, & NS10 drivers of the past are anything but consistent I would replace both right now and I might try singles in the future. As I said earlier in the thread modern Chinese drivers are very consistent so the future could be very for NS10's with these! |
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Post by deehope on Jan 9, 2018 16:03:11 GMT -6
The timing couldnt be any more perfect for me. One of my woofers is shorting, definitly going. Would you change just that one or the pair? Dee Since these are a slightly different cone, & NS10 drivers of the past are anything but consistent I would replace both right now and I might try singles in the future. As I said earlier in the thread modern Chinese drivers are very consistent so the future could be very for NS10's with these! thanks man. Appreciate it. A pair of these is still cheaper then the going rate for a single on ebay. |
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Post by raddistribution on Jan 12, 2018 14:25:47 GMT -6
No NS10 owner is complete without the perfect tissue paper to tame those highs. Presenting Avantone tissue paper: A First in Audio Toiletry Attachments:
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Post by winetree on Jan 12, 2018 20:31:10 GMT -6
No NS10 owner is complete without the perfect tissue paper to tame those highs. Presenting Avantone tissue paper: A First in Audio Toiletry They only need the tissue paper on the old original NS-10s. There was even a plastic ring that went around the tweeter to hold the T.P. on. The studio versions no T.P. necessary. |
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Post by raddistribution on Jan 12, 2018 21:12:56 GMT -6
correct, the older vertical ns10 owners can use this for taming highs. owners of the horizontal studio models could use the tissue paper for... sneezing?
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Post by ericn on Jan 12, 2018 23:14:09 GMT -6
No NS10 owner is complete without the perfect tissue paper to tame those highs. Presenting Avantone tissue paper: A First in Audio Toiletry Well I always felt they sounded like ass so I find theses a perfectly logical upgrade! |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 14, 2018 10:17:58 GMT -6
Funny thing, I had to sell so much gear last year I was loaned a set of NS-10M Studio monitors by a friend. In the mid-80's -90's I used NS-10's every day, but never liked them. The Studio version might be just a little different, but they're better than the ice pick NS-10's I remember.
Seth, are the tweeters like the Studio version or the original standard one?
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