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Post by lolo on Jan 23, 2014 19:23:51 GMT -6
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Post by lolo on Jan 23, 2014 19:26:13 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 23, 2014 19:58:32 GMT -6
This bigger one looks really good.
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Post by winetree on Jan 23, 2014 20:04:42 GMT -6
X-Touch MAP $599.00
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Post by LesC on Jan 23, 2014 20:26:21 GMT -6
Holy cow, this looks great! I'm not crazy about Behringer, but when it works well, the price is right. I'm currently using the FCB1010 midi foot controller with the Uno for Kemper chip to control my Kemper, and it works amazingly well, completely integrated with the Kemper and with Kemper's blessing. I also use an HA-4000 headphone amplifier/distributor which is also more than adequate.
Any idea if this can be used with Cubase?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 23, 2014 20:48:30 GMT -6
According to their page, it should work with all daws. Can't be sure until you try though.
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Post by watchtower on Jan 23, 2014 21:49:56 GMT -6
I don't understand this. Everyone is really excited about this new piece, and I want to get why. Very generally, what do you gain with it? Hands-on fader control for 9 channels instead of using a mouse?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 23, 2014 22:19:20 GMT -6
17-24 etc.uote author=" watchtower" source="/post/13726/thread" timestamp="1390535396"]I don't understand this. Everyone is really excited about this new piece, and I want to get why. Very generally, what do you gain with it? Hands-on fader control for 9 channels instead of using a mouse?[/quote] Price for features. Nothing this capable exists at this price point. I imagine that you dont have much experience with a surface. Tactical faders for automation is nice. You can normally switch the 8 faders through banks. 1-8, 9-16, 17-24 etc, so its not "just 9 faders". I'm also a big fan of transport controls with the jog wheel. Very handy for quickly getting around. Not sure how the plug integration will work with this, but I imagine some plugs will map to some on board rotary pots too. It's not a necessity by any means, but a nice luxury for not a lot of dough.
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Post by watchtower on Jan 23, 2014 22:22:39 GMT -6
Gotcha. You're right; I have zero experience with a control surface. Born and raised entirely ITB with a mouse
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 23, 2014 22:31:53 GMT -6
Gotcha. You're right; I have zero experience with a control surface. Born and raised entirely ITB with a mouse If you don't have experience with one, you don't know what you're missing. Once you get one and get used to it, going without is a bit of a letdown. I had am old tascam fw-1884 for a few years and it was pretty decent at the time. Then I spent a couple years with an icon. Thing was boss. Very intuitive imo.
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Post by Ward on Jan 23, 2014 23:44:15 GMT -6
Using the B word? Ermergerg, swearing like a sailor!
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Post by lolo on Jan 24, 2014 0:20:11 GMT -6
^^^^^ Agree with this. A little story, sorry for OT.
I played a solo gig with my wife a couple of years ago in a wonderfull theatre here in Perth, Australia opening for a big act. Just us two and a acoustic guitar. 1000 people. Had this Begringer guitar tuner where my guitar went through. In the first song this tuner started giving in. Cutting the signal out every 2 seconds. With no other instruments this was the worst 3 minutes ever. Uplugged it and went straight into Di after the 1st song. Long story short. After that experience I promised myself to never look at Behringer again.
Hopefully this is a beter product. Great price
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Post by lolo on Jan 24, 2014 0:20:56 GMT -6
Gotcha. You're right; I have zero experience with a control surface. Born and raised entirely ITB with a mouse Nothing like automation with a real fader.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 0:38:38 GMT -6
Why not. Some B-word stuff is pretty usable. Some. B-word bashing is somehow, ehem, purple, isn't it? The B-Control stuff was sturdy, throw it on the floor, working still. SRC9624 - flexible digital swiss army knife for lowest cost. At this price, you always find a use. There will be the situation and you will be glad you bought it. Behringer Edison. Usable. The early red stripe B-word compressor made in germany? An unknown classic. In a good way. Anyone remember the B-word Multiband-Compressor? No?... OK, lots of crap, too. But not all.
I use a Tascam US-2400. I like the silent motor-pseudofaders it has.
Well, perhaps someone, who didn't start with faders in the analog domain, does not miss control surfaces. But fader and channel strip feel is great. Transport control - you may not miss it, if you started with a cd player or MP3. But buttons and jog wheels are great. In the digital domain too. Haptics. AND.....speed.
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Post by keymod on Jan 24, 2014 5:25:07 GMT -6
Since Behringer has been aquiring big names, especially Midas, it seems they have really stepped up their game. At the very least, it seems as if Uli wants to shed the "low budget, poor quality" image.
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Post by levon on Jan 24, 2014 7:52:30 GMT -6
Well, for me, Behringer bashing was the only acceptable thing on GS. I have used Behringer stuff many moons ago, when I didn't know better. Everything broke within two years. Sure, it's cheap, but you get what you pay for. They're trying to up their reputation with the acquisition of Midas et al,and maybe the quality is improving although, at that price point, I don't think so. It's difficult to get rid of a cheap image. Friends of mine bought a cheap Behringer PA for small-club gigs, we'll see how long that lasts.
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Post by svart on Jan 24, 2014 8:26:03 GMT -6
Knowing Behringer, it's just a copy of this.. www.mackie.com/products/mcupro/index.htmlEverything on it rather looks similar, even the segmented timecode display.. Anyway, back in the day I had the decision to make, go completely ITB or stay hybrid. I tried a control surface for a few months and sold it. I could never work as fast as I could with my DAW and analog mixer combination.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 24, 2014 8:35:39 GMT -6
It definitely seems like a copy of the Mackie, but at half the cost. I would like to add a controller to my hybrid setup. Do my mixing on the console and use the surface to write automation, have some tactile control over some plugs, and have some transport.
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Post by Koln on Jan 28, 2014 10:54:51 GMT -6
This looks interesting. It's simply a copy of the Mackie BUT with only 1 extender connection which I GUESS you could make it a 16 faders controler. Good enough for smaller jobs / studios.
I use 2x BCF2000 on my mobile rig. Does a perfect job for muting channels, level corrections, send levels and transport while sending the camera mix. Good thing it is based on Mackie Control as this is well implanted in most DAWs and stable.
I guess this will replace my BCFs if the they put out an 8 ch. extender.
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Post by john on Jul 9, 2017 19:36:10 GMT -6
Bumping this oldie because the expansion faders are announced and should be out soon... 8 more faders for $350.
Who's using this controller and how's it holding up?
Please do tell and please shout out the daw you are using as well.
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Post by winetree on Jul 9, 2017 19:44:39 GMT -6
So far, so good I've been using the X-Touch with the Harrison Mixbus 32C Version 4 The good thing is that harrison recommends and supports it.
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Post by M57 on Jul 9, 2017 19:51:10 GMT -6
I've had mine since I think Dec '15?-ish. I use it with Logic, which I understand is what the X-Touch was originally programmed for. I have very few problems with it. I should probably check it for a firmware update, but really, the only somewhat consistent problem I've had with it is that every once in a while it loses it's link with the DAW - like maybe once every 15+ hours of use. No problem, just turn it off, count to three and turn it back on - and you're back in business in just a few seconds. I'm psyched to check out the board with the extra faders. Not sure that I need it, I rarely use the faders - but I do use all of the transport and channel functions, plus a good amount of the specialized and dedicated buttons.
I have mine on wheels so I can easily swing it from my desk to wherever I'm recording - piano, guitar, voice, etc. and can practically run the session without having to go over and grab the mouse. This puts the board at my side when I'm mixing. I suppose having the EXT on the desk in front of me might entice me to use the faders more often but it doesn't have any transport controls or assignables. The Compact on the other hand, doesn't have the scribble strips.
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Post by M57 on Jul 9, 2017 19:55:51 GMT -6
Hmm... Something must be going on because Sweetwater just dropped the price of the X-Touch Compact from $349 to $299. EDIT: Found it www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/XTouchEXTStrange, it doesn't have any transport controls and at $349, is more expensive than the Compact. I just assumed the Compact could be an expansion unit.
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Post by john on Jul 9, 2017 20:41:32 GMT -6
Yeah they are all price dropped. I figured just to interfere with Faderport.
The expansion has the channel displays and the compact does not. other than that I think they are basically the same and can be used the same way.
I think I am going to pick one up and toy around with it. Give it a 30 day trial. I am using Reaper now but have been contemplating moving to Logic ever since that Education price bundle came out. I'll give it a go with Reaper first.
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Post by ericn on Jul 9, 2017 21:28:01 GMT -6
If only they could reverse engineer Eucon ! Then I would bite!
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