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Post by organicsounds on Dec 16, 2017 18:51:31 GMT -6
I just ordered a 500 series eq from HRK called the EQ5169 and it is a recreation of the Studer 169 consoles baxandall eq. Seems like a reasonable price at $209 w/shipping for the DIY version. HRK has been making colours for the colour format at DIYRE for a while and it seems this is their try at some not so usual clones. If anyone is interested I will post some opinions after it's delivered and complete. In the meantime there are some Youtube vids, although the drums source track for the drum demo probably can't be helped by any eq... HRK Audio EQ5169
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Post by wiz on Dec 16, 2017 23:18:35 GMT -6
I built two of these, easy fun build, I ended up selling them on.
cheers
Wiz
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Post by organicsounds on Dec 17, 2017 8:10:51 GMT -6
I built two of these, easy fun build, I ended up selling them on. cheers Wiz I looking for a gentle eq for subtle correction while tracking. Am I correct in thinking these will perform in that role?
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Post by wiz on Dec 17, 2017 14:48:42 GMT -6
I built two of these, easy fun build, I ended up selling them on. cheers Wiz I looking for a gentle eq for subtle correction while tracking. Am I correct in thinking these will perform in that role? Could be...I would prefer something with a variable HPF for that...but, never know till you try Cheers Wiz
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Post by gabygab2 on Dec 17, 2017 15:26:56 GMT -6
I'm interested in how you like them.
Their MPQ568C preamp looks fun and wallet friendly.
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Post by organicsounds on Dec 24, 2017 18:57:29 GMT -6
I'm interested in how you like them. Their MPQ568C preamp looks fun and wallet friendly. Will definitely return with my verdict once I have it in my hands. My thinking is for $200 a copy with in/out trannys its worth a try.
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Post by kilroyrock on Jan 2, 2018 21:52:34 GMT -6
I looking for a gentle eq for subtle correction while tracking. Am I correct in thinking these will perform in that role? Could be...I would prefer something with a variable HPF for that...but, never know till you try Cheers Wiz I keep finding the only eq when recording that doesn't crap the bed that I can benefit from is the hpf. Everything else tends to have me removing all life from a recording.
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Post by organicsounds on Jan 13, 2018 9:01:00 GMT -6
Could be...I would prefer something with a variable HPF for that...but, never know till you try Cheers Wiz I keep finding the only eq when recording that doesn't crap the bed that I can benefit from is the hpf. Everything else tends to have me removing all life from a recording. Well it's not for a lack of suitable mics and preamps that I choose to track with an eq for subtle correction. It's those once in a while situations where I just need a nudge or a little dip when the client is determined to use an instrument that has more sentimental value than sound value. I too use HPF as the go to for tracking when required and usually don't even need that as I prefer to capture my sources as naturally as possible using proper mic choices and placement. I originally wanted a CAPI 553 but Jeff is currently not stocking them until mid 2018 so I thought baxandall would suit me for these duties when needed. Now when I said,"subtle correction", I meant a db or so on one frequency to gently persuade the source tone to cooperate a bit (if required).
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Post by organicsounds on Jan 13, 2018 9:01:24 GMT -6
I had received the kit and built it in a few hours as it was not at all complicated and the instructions were straight forward. The creator of the EQ stated,"it is not to be pushed for character as it will clip", or something to that effect and he is right. I tested it using a hardware insert, for a already recorded kick drum, only wanting a lower mid dip as that was pretty much all I wanted. Then I though I'd give a little lift to the bass frequency and as I added it the eq began to pop on the transients around +3db and it was not pretty. I trimmed the send and it corrected for the gain and it sounded alright after the adjustment. I left me thinking that there were 2 transformers that were identical ratios so why not step down on the input and step up on the output to avoid the circuit from clipping? Anyways. once the gain staging was sorted out I found that EQ performed adequately in the role of nudger of frequencies in a controlled gain environment but would not be useful for tracking as I had hoped. As far as an EQ for inserting for mix purposes I'm left feeling that a plugin would better suit me in that role for now.
Conclusion - I'm always looking for great gear at reasonable prices (DIY) and this would certainly fit into the "reasonable" category but beyond that the HRK EQ5169 left me flat. At $210 it is a quick, fun and easy kit to build and would probably work for someone somewhere. The EQ itself works as advertised and is quiet. The frequency selections are decent choices and it EQs. This will go to a home where it will be loved more than mine. Sorry HRK the harsh clipping was the deal breaker.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 11:08:37 GMT -6
A bit off topic, a bit in:
Not exactly 169 but I daily use my Studer 962 and love its EQ for broad strokes.
I found they sound best when using all 3 bands.
LO and HI frequencies are placed too far in the sub and air area for my taste but this is where MID control shines: LO boost and gentle MID (low mid) boost gives body. Hi boost and gentle MID (high mid) gives presence.
Never had any issue with clipping
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Post by organicsounds on Jan 14, 2018 17:12:37 GMT -6
A bit off topic, a bit in: Not exactly 169 but I daily use my Studer 962 and love its EQ for broad strokes. I found they sound best when using all 3 bands. LO and HI frequencies are placed too far in the sub and air area for my taste but this is where MID control shines: LO boost and gentle MID (low mid) boost gives body. Hi boost and gentle MID (high mid) gives presence. Never had any issue with clipping I'll still use it. I can see using it in the same fashion as you're speaking of when needed as that was my original intention. The clipping is the NOS opamp transistors and seemed to only react to louder bass transients when pushed a bit, admittedly. It will work it's way down the 500 series rack with time until it get's pushed out. Who knows, maybe i'll start liking it... I haven't used it for tracking yet as I don't want to freak out a client with any popping noises but when I have time I'll track some of my stuff and see if I can make it work.
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Post by gabygab2 on Jan 14, 2018 22:43:24 GMT -6
I had received the kit and built it in a few hours as it was not at all complicated and the instructions were straight forward. The creator of the EQ stated,"it is not to be pushed for character as it will clip", or something to that effect and he is right. I tested it using a hardware insert, for a already recorded kick drum, only wanting a lower mid dip as that was pretty much all I wanted. Then I though I'd give a little lift to the bass frequency and as I added it the eq began to pop on the transients around +3db and it was not pretty. I trimmed the send and it corrected for the gain and it sounded alright after the adjustment. I left me thinking that there were 2 transformers that were identical ratios so why not step down on the input and step up on the output to avoid the circuit from clipping? Anyways. once the gain staging was sorted out I found that EQ performed adequately in the role of nudger of frequencies in a controlled gain environment but would not be useful for tracking as I had hoped. As far as an EQ for inserting for mix purposes I'm left feeling that a plugin would better suit me in that role for now. Conclusion - I'm always looking for great gear at reasonable prices (DIY) and this would certainly fit into the "reasonable" category but beyond that the HRK EQ5169 left me flat. At $210 it is a quick, fun and easy kit to build and would probably work for someone somewhere. The EQ itself works as advertised and is quiet. The frequency selections are decent choices and it EQs. This will go to a home where it will be loved more than mine. Sorry HRK the harsh clipping was the deal breaker. Thanks for letting us know how they worked out for you. I guess you have to wait for those CAPI eqs to be in stock
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