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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 9, 2018 9:02:31 GMT -6
So who has moved from Pro-L to Pro-L2? Big improvement? I guess I probably need to demo to see the value though...
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Post by mikec on Feb 9, 2018 9:27:32 GMT -6
I might just go with Ozone 8 So, JK, did you end up going with Ozone 8? I've been tempted to give it a try.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 9, 2018 9:38:24 GMT -6
I began using Wave L2 or L3 at the bottom, after Jamie Tate posted that's what he used. It works nicely. Slate's FG-X II has been vaporware for 4 years now. I know there are probably others that work even better, but I've been using ARIA for mastering, which make it all so much easier. I go for a nice clear sound at low-mid volume, then try ARIA's has 5 different mastering settings. The don't charge you to remaster if you want to try the other types. I vary between A and D, A being the least, D being like A, but louder. ARIA's subscription is only $49 a month for 10 masters with unlimited remasters of those tracks.
I'll try Logics limiter next time I get a chance, just to see.
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Post by M57 on Feb 9, 2018 11:29:13 GMT -6
I'll try Logics limiter next time I get a chance, just to see. Regardless of what I use to do the heavy lifting, I always put Logic's Adaptive Limiter at the bottom of the 2-chain and let it kiss the last 0.5db or so of transients off the top. It's as transparent as anything out there so I'm doing no harm. Call it paranoia if you must, but I'm just more comfortable with the idea of using a plugin that I have high confidence is Logic-friendly.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 9, 2018 12:55:45 GMT -6
The new Logic Neve and API equalizers are cool, haven't tried the Pultec yet, but I'd bet it's at least as good as the Waves plugs.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 9, 2018 13:04:47 GMT -6
The new Logic Neve and API equalizers are cool, haven't tried the Pultec yet, but I'd bet it's at least as good as the Waves plugs. What's this have to do with FabFilter Pro-L2?
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Post by Guitar on Feb 9, 2018 16:19:34 GMT -6
So who has moved from Pro-L to Pro-L2? Big improvement? I guess I probably need to demo to see the value though... Ah, yes. Yes, yes. Pro-L was my pick for best limiter and go-to plugin. Some of the other ones sound great too, of course, I just like Pro-L. Anyway Pro-L2 is even better-er if you can believe that. It's just a really satisfying sound to me. The new metering built in is handy as well. I didn't think I needed an upgrade, but it turns out they delivered something worthy of a V2, in my estimation.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 9, 2018 16:27:47 GMT -6
I went with Ozone and really love it. Although, I SWEAR I still wonder/think Stealth gives a bigger bottom.
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Post by wiz on Feb 9, 2018 16:40:40 GMT -6
I actually don't use a limiter
maybe thats why no one will sit with me at lunchtime 8)
cheers
Wiz
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 9, 2018 18:05:35 GMT -6
The new Logic Neve and API equalizers are cool, haven't tried the Pultec yet, but I'd bet it's at least as good as the Waves plugs. What's this have to do with FabFilter Pro-L2? Well, mrholmes and M57 both mentioned Logic's adaptive limiter, and I mentioned those new free Logic plug-ins were as good as other manufacturers plug-ins, so perhaps the Logic Adaptive Limiter might be as useful as many other brands. So, anyone using Logic might do well to check it out and compare it to a demo of Pro-L2. Everything in the world of plug-ins is usually about comparing to other plugs and then hardware, is it not? If you read all the posts, I thought the connection I made was obvious. Did my post bother you for some reason Jesse?
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Post by M57 on Feb 9, 2018 19:28:04 GMT -6
Actually, I'm more in Wiz's camp. If I was more competent, I suspect I wouldn't use a limiter at all. Half of the reason I throw Logic's AL on the end of the chain is for safety's sake. In fact, the more I think of it, I should simply use Logic's AL as a meter at the bottom of the buss and just make sure it never kicks in. I'm guessing the FF limiter has a few bells and whistles, but there's nothing to the LAL. It's just a brick wall with an input level and a threshold.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 9, 2018 20:33:37 GMT -6
What's this have to do with FabFilter Pro-L2? Well, mrholmes and M57 both mentioned Logic's adaptive limiter, and I mentioned those new free Logic plug-ins were as good as other manufacturers plug-ins, so perhaps the Logic Adaptive Limiter might be as useful as many other brands. So, anyone using Logic might do well to check it out and compare it to a demo of Pro-L2. Everything in the world of plug-ins is usually about comparing to other plugs and then hardware, is it not? If you read all the posts, I thought the connection I made was obvious. Did my post bother you for some reason Jesse? Nah, just didn't see the connection between the Logic eq and Fabfilter limiter.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 10, 2018 9:17:25 GMT -6
Actually, I'm more in Wiz's camp. If I was more competent, I suspect I wouldn't use a limiter at all. Half of the reason I throw Logic's AL on the end of the chain is for safety's sake. In fact, the more I think of it, I should simply use Logic's AL as a meter at the bottom of the buss and just make sure it never kicks in. I'm guessing the FF limiter has a few bells and whistles, but there's nothing to the LAL. It's just a brick wall with an input level and a threshold. I rarely have peaks/overs (I will limit my drumbus)...but I love how a limiter can be used musically on the master to kind of make things bloom a bit.
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Post by donr on Feb 10, 2018 13:43:16 GMT -6
Right. If you hear it, it's too much, but if you kiss it, you get a hair better presentation of what you intended. Unless there's some limiter tricks I don't know.
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Post by Guitar on Feb 10, 2018 13:45:30 GMT -6
There's just too many tall peaks in a lot of the music we do. It's better to trade it for loudness in a lot of cases. Yeah I think it's part of the sound, too.
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