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Post by matt on Jan 21, 2014 8:12:36 GMT -6
IMHO, my biggest problem is where I record/mix. I work in my family room/kitchen area, which is not treated with traps or anything else. My untrained ear tells me I have flutter echo, at a minimum. I have trouble hearing low-freq information as well. I am using BM5As and a cheap KRK sub, the 10-incher. I am going to invest in new monitoring, but I do not want to just throw stuff at the problem without some thought. So, I welcome input as to what can/should be done. The short of it all is that my mixes do not translate well. It's due somewhat to my relative inexperience, but I feel like I am fighting the room too. I am willing to do some things, but I can't go crazy (like enclose the space).
Are some techniques automatic, such as corner bass traps? Is the mixing station better placed when positioned in the middle of the room? Etc, etc.
If it would help I can upload some pictures.
Also, if there is any room analysis hardware/software out there that can be recommended, that would be awesome.
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Post by svart on Jan 21, 2014 8:52:05 GMT -6
Generally there are a few things that are automatic for small rooms. Bass traps. Absorbent ceiling for low ceiling'd rooms, or at least a cloud above the listening position that covers the first reflection point. Absorption at first reflection points on the walls if the walls are close to the listening position. I'm sure Ethan will be around shortly to go into detail, or you can go check out his site or any of the acoustic product sites or even John Sayer's forum on acoustic design. That forum is what I studied before building out my studio and it helped change my mind about a lot of misconceptions I had about acoustic design. And remember.. FORGET acoustical foam. Looks cool, but does very little. Rockwool/mineral wool or compressed fiberglass board are pretty much the only game in town unless you have space to pack large amounts of "soft" insulation into somewhere, like between rafters. Please upload pics and maybe like an overhead sketch of the room layout. One thing you might do is make absorbent gobos from something like this: www.atsacoustics.com/item--Roxul-Rockboard-60-Case-of-6--RB60.htmland cover with something like this: www.atsacoustics.com/cat--Fabric--107.htmlI just sprayed mine down with spray glue: www.atsacoustics.com/cat--Adhesives--108.htmland wrapped the fabric around the panel. I glued two panels back to back and stuck a mic stand between the panels to make a movable absorber. That way you can put them up in the room while mixing and then put them away when you aren't. It's my opinion that room analysis software isn't necessarily needed to get a generic room to usable quality, especially if it's a living room and things will change. If you had a dedicated mix room, I'd say do the minimal stuff first and then do the software to get the final touches nailed down. |
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Post by WKG on Jan 22, 2014 0:25:05 GMT -6
Room EQ Wizard can be a help to get an idea what's going on at your mix position. Treating your first reflection points is always a good idea. As svart said I wouldn't bother with foam products. DIY with OC rigid fiberglass is an option and there are companies that are making some great solutions also. Seems like the biggest challenge would be working treatment into the family room/kitchen area. Movable gobos would be pretty convenient in that scenario. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 22, 2014 13:12:33 GMT -6
Set up long ways, and a third of the way back from the front of the room/ centered, you cannot over bass trap, so start there, then use the mirror/lamp trick to treat 1st reflection points, try to keep the room as symmetrical as possible.
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