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Post by drbill on Aug 24, 2017 21:56:03 GMT -6
Well worth 5 minutes of your time, but if you're time challenged, you can check out just the first 5 seconds and you'll be good to go....
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Post by noah shain on Aug 24, 2017 22:06:19 GMT -6
Amen
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Post by Vincent R. on Aug 24, 2017 22:19:52 GMT -6
#Truth
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Post by rowmat on Aug 24, 2017 22:49:33 GMT -6
I was recently revisited by a photographer who I had this very conversation with 12 months ago regarding me lighting a photo shoot for a well known musician and their record label.
I originally lit a photoshoot for this photographer with this artist in 2015.
I was neither paid or credited for the lighting.
A year later (2016) I was approached by the same photographer to light another shoot involving the same artist and associated musicians.
By this time the artist was very well known internationally with appearances on both Jimmy Fallon and Ellen Degeneres.
However when I started enquiring about payment I was met with silence.
I was then told "maybe" they could manage to come up with $100 AUD ($70 USD) for my services, a van full of lighting gear and an 70 mile round trip into the city encompassing a full day's work.
I responded by asking would the artist I was lighting put on a gig for $100?
This was met with indignation.
When I asked if they were being serious I was told maybe they could stretch it to $150.
I declined the offer.
Two days ago, and a year after the last contact, I was asked to quote on lighting another photoshoot for the same photographer but this time provide a written quotation as she wanted to apply for a government funded arts grant and needed a formal quotation.
Of course this time a high quotation was desirable in order to maximise her grant application.
I actually thought about giving her a quote for $100 a day but in the end I declined the job altogether.
She never responded at all after that.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Aug 25, 2017 1:21:36 GMT -6
Yeah I agree with the message and won't work for free either. This is also easy to say when you are Tony Maserati 😏😀
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Post by allbuttonmode on Aug 25, 2017 4:25:24 GMT -6
I agree 100% with him.
So far, I'm not doing this full time, so I have the luxury of saying no. When/if I jump into this for a living, I will do all I can to continue saying no to insulting offers. It's like he says, you're just doing yourself a disservice. You'll obviously lose some business, but that's business you're better off without anyway, I reckon.
Of course, I might be talking out of my ass... Ask me again when I've been doing it for a living for a year or two.
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Post by adamjbrass on Aug 25, 2017 6:35:04 GMT -6
thanks for sharing,
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Post by EmRR on Aug 25, 2017 7:28:17 GMT -6
Then dig into this one. Really looks into all the 'creative' reasons people justify not paying for work along the path, and what to do about it. Different field, so there's some interpretive bits to think through. His book on dealing with clients is excellent.
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