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Post by javamad on Jun 23, 2017 17:13:34 GMT -6
Hi All, I saw this on FB and went to the stam site. stamaudio.com/sa47fet.htmlI have to say it sounds interesting ... but I am concerned that Stam may be over extending. I am still waiting for my SA4000 ... yes, I recently got an update that the components are stuck in customs ... and I do want the company to grow but I just have the feeling that it would be better to build slow. The dust has not settled on the SA-87 yet. Thoughts?
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jun 23, 2017 23:28:02 GMT -6
If you want a FET47 then buy a FET47. You can have it shipped from a dealer and be using it in 3 days. Expensive? Sure - but you'll actually have a mic that you can use to improve your work. That puts a smile on my face personally. (Resale value will be quite good as well)
Having deposit money tied up for about a year, plus constant delays is a lot less fun.
Just my $.2
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jun 24, 2017 6:08:34 GMT -6
Unfortunately Stam is at the mercy of customs, and they do like to take their sweet time. He is trying to provide products at a price and also building / assembling them as well. I agree he offers lots of products however, it makes sense to me that if you have materials for a tube 47, you have materials for a fet 47. Why not offer both?
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Post by Ward on Jun 24, 2017 6:56:12 GMT -6
I have two actual Neumann U47FETs and they're wonderful microphones. They do exactly what they're supposed to do every single time and work in the exact applications they are loved for, better than just about anything else. I'd love one to compare to my two originals, just to see Joshua did with it. Chances are, it's mint. javamad does have a good about stam taking on an awful lot of adventurous projects at once.
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Post by stam on Jun 24, 2017 10:51:12 GMT -6
I have two actual Neumann U47FETs and they're wonderful microphones. They do exactly what they're supposed to do every single time and work in the exact applications they are loved for, better than just about anything else. I'd love one to compare to my two originals, just to see Joshua did with it. Chances are, it's mint. javamad does have a good about stam taking on an awful lot of adventurous projects at once. I will send you one of my FET47 to compare! I have had some problems with components being stuck at customs, I will probably have to buy them all over again if they are not released by Monday so the SA4000 batch is delayed 2 to 3 months, depending on what happens with customs. What am I suppose to do in the meantime? Just sit around and wait for them to arrive?, No, I will build other stuff, I need to pay for bills like everybody else, I find it funny how people have no knowledge on how things operate yet are so quick to point fingers or assume what they do not know. Did you notice the nice 250 dollar discount on the fet 47 for SA4000 owners affected by the delay? Pretty much making them for free at that price point, guess that part is not worth mentioning. The SA87 is in stock and shipping, the 1073´s have all been delivered.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 24, 2017 11:41:54 GMT -6
Ya I think we need to give Joshua credit cus he is trying to improve his logistics, see reduced shipping costs but his delivery capacity is affected by customs which he can't control. He's between a rock and a hard place if he only follows Order/product sequence he will have unproductive downtime so he kind of has to build and sell based on the components he has on hand. Trying to meet people half way with these significant discounts is a nice sweetener. I may have this wrong but I think if you ordered his last 3-4 products, basically you'd be getting one for almost free other than shipping ? I have been paying off some debts so only have the 4000 comp but it's married to my 2 buss
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Post by javamad on Jun 24, 2017 12:10:22 GMT -6
Maybe I should clarify ....
When I paid my deposit for the SA4000 on the 20th of February .. there was no date given for the build. I assumed that it would be done in some kind of order. Then in May, 3 months Later I hear that it is for June ... and this when I am seeing launch posts of other products, I thought .. OK ...theres a lot going on there. MySA 4000 seems to be pushed to the back of the queue. Later I hear that it's August because of customs on the components .. OK but overall I have felt that the order of things has been a bit funny.
Anyway, I am optimistic about the SA4000 when I do get it, given what people say about them here and I am very happy to support the little guy. My only mis-giving has been the long wait.
I should probably clarify that I don't mean to be condescending to Stam or intrusive with my comment above about them taking on too much. I hope it's not taken in the wrong spirit.
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Post by wiz on Jun 24, 2017 15:43:44 GMT -6
Unfortunately Stam is at the mercy of customs, and they do like to take their sweet time. He is trying to provide products at a price and also building / assembling them as well. I agree he offers lots of products however, it makes sense to me that if you have materials for a tube 47, you have materials for a fet 47. Why not offer both? Different PCBs and a tube to start... cheers Wiz
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Post by ChaseUTB on Jun 24, 2017 22:07:25 GMT -6
Unfortunately Stam is at the mercy of customs, and they do like to take their sweet time. He is trying to provide products at a price and also building / assembling them as well. I agree he offers lots of products however, it makes sense to me that if you have materials for a tube 47, you have materials for a fet 47. Why not offer both? Different PCBs and a tube to start... cheers Wiz I meant Same capsule, body, head basket, box, shock mount, flight case, I know that there is ontube in a 47 fet. Re: different pcb, idk ask Stam about that, idk. I wouldn't think one would have to redesign a pcb to replace a tube circuit with fet, then again I am not a mic builder... 🤠
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Post by Ward on Jun 25, 2017 15:33:11 GMT -6
I have two actual Neumann U47FETs and they're wonderful microphones. They do exactly what they're supposed to do every single time and work in the exact applications they are loved for, better than just about anything else. I'd love one to compare to my two originals, just to see Joshua did with it. Chances are, it's mint. I will send you one of my FET47 to compare! HOT DAMN!! Now I'm REALLY looking forward to that!
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Post by Ward on Jun 25, 2017 15:35:12 GMT -6
javamad does have a good about stam taking on an awful lot of adventurous projects at once. What am I suppose to do in the meantime? Just sit around and wait for them to arrive?, No, I will build other stuff, I need to pay for bills like everybody else, I find it funny how people have no knowledge on how things operate yet are so quick to point fingers or assume what they do not know. Hold on now, no one's taking the piss out of you, least of all me. You have friends and supporters here! Just pointing out that you're doing an awful lot at once... and I don't know if I could handle the half of it!
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Post by pope on Jun 26, 2017 16:26:03 GMT -6
Ignore my ignorance, but how components get stuck in customs? Why don't they release them?
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Post by Ward on Jun 26, 2017 23:11:00 GMT -6
Ignore my ignorance, but how components get stuck in customs? Why don't they release them? Some sort of mail union strike and the workers went postal
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Post by pope on Jun 27, 2017 7:41:13 GMT -6
Ignore my ignorance, but how components get stuck in customs? Why don't they release them? Some sort of mail union strike and the workers went postal Thanks. Ignore (forgive) my ignorance
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Post by hadaja on Jul 11, 2018 22:26:20 GMT -6
Took possession of one of these today. Initial test very quiet, nice on spoken word. More testing to come.
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Post by jtc111 on Jul 11, 2018 23:21:50 GMT -6
Unfortunately Stam is at the mercy of customs, and they do like to take their sweet time. The delays of getting products out of his factory on time have absolutely nothing to do with customs.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 12, 2018 2:44:15 GMT -6
If one is in Chile, then that could be true for delivery but if there are delays in his international receipt of parts or ability to ship, for what ever reasons internal to Chile, then I think Joshua’s statement would be true?
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Post by hadaja on Jul 12, 2018 3:05:54 GMT -6
He had these in stock already built so basically bought it mid june and got it today.
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Post by Ward on Jul 12, 2018 5:57:11 GMT -6
I will send you one of my FET47 to compare! Still waiting on this.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 12, 2018 8:07:42 GMT -6
Where do you guys like to use the 47 FET ? It didn't work very well for female vocals when I tried two vintage models a few years ago.
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Post by notneeson on Jul 12, 2018 9:46:41 GMT -6
Where do you guys like to use the 47 FET ? It didn't work very well for female vocals when I tried two vintage models a few years ago. Well, you probably know this already, but it's a classic outside bass drum mic. Not the same thing exactly, but I have a bunch of time on the Soundelux iFet7 and it could be great on acoustic guitar too.
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Post by ragan on Jul 12, 2018 9:50:50 GMT -6
Unfortunately Stam is at the mercy of customs, and they do like to take their sweet time. The delays of getting products out of his factory on time have absolutely nothing to do with customs. Also, much of the rack gear is initially built in China and then he does final assembly/QC there in Chile so stuff can get caught between the factory in China and his operation there in Chile. And I would imagine being a pretty small player, as far as the volumes the Chinese factories are used to dealing with, would lead to getting the shaft on delivery priority sometimes. That's a guess though.
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Post by jtc111 on Jul 12, 2018 10:44:10 GMT -6
The delays of getting products out of his factory on time have absolutely nothing to do with customs. Also, much of the rack gear is initially built in China and then he does final assembly/QC there in Chile so stuff can get caught between the factory in China and his operation there in Chile. And I would imagine being a pretty small player, as far as the volumes the Chinese factories are used to dealing with, would lead to getting the shaft on delivery priority sometimes. That's a guess though. If that's the case, shouldn't he take that into account and make more realistic delivery estimates instead of best case scenarios that never seem to be met?
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Post by Ward on Jul 12, 2018 10:54:54 GMT -6
Where do you guys like to use the 47 FET ? It didn't work very well for female vocals when I tried two vintage models a few years ago. A 47 fet is wonderful on outside kick, and will work just inside a kick drum also and giver you a classic tone that defies description...other than "that's it". Additionally: Bass guitar amp speaker cabinet Stand-up bass Tuba, T-bone, Bari-sax small to medium acoustic guitars Male vocals for days, especially a voice with any grit to it, as in a hard rock / metal voice Can be decent in a variety of other applications, guitar cabinets for example.
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Post by winetree on Jul 12, 2018 13:18:59 GMT -6
I will send you one of my FET47 to compare! Still waiting on this. It's stuck in Customs.
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