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Post by mdmitch2 on Apr 12, 2017 11:01:20 GMT -6
I'm not sure if this is a relatively new product, but I don't remember seeing it before: fivefishstudios.com/500serieskits/sk1di/At $129, this may be the cheapest 500 series pre yet... and it also has a DI. Transformerless design of course.... I don't have any experience with Five Fish, but he's been around a while, and I only remember reading good things. I wonder how this compares to the DIYRE $149 pre.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 11:55:08 GMT -6
Does that faceplate really have no markings?
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Post by winetree on Apr 12, 2017 12:07:37 GMT -6
Yes, $55.00 for an anodized face plate. With faceplate, metal knobs, O.P. Trans, VU, Steped gain and shipping = $275.00
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Post by mdmitch2 on Apr 12, 2017 12:14:04 GMT -6
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Post by mdmitch2 on Apr 12, 2017 12:16:47 GMT -6
Yes, $55.00 for an anodized face plate. With faceplate, metal knobs, O.P. Trans, VU, Steped gain and shipping = $275.00 Which is still a pretty good price if you want all the bells and whistles. The output transformer is a $25 upgrade, and the only thing that affects the sound.
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Post by wiz on Apr 12, 2017 17:47:08 GMT -6
Great price
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Post by keymod on Apr 13, 2017 8:35:39 GMT -6
I have five of the X12 500 Series preamps. When I bought them, they were still offered as kits. Once he joined the VPR Alliance, he no longer offered them as kits. They were nice kits to build, seem high quality and they work as described. I don't regret the purchases, however I did build them before I knew about CAPI. I will eventually replace them with CAPI 28s so as to match the CAPI EQs & Comps in my sidecar. Therefore, if anyone might be interested in buying my X12s, let me know.
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Post by scumbum on Apr 13, 2017 15:27:17 GMT -6
It would be nice if we could hear this mic pre .
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Post by scumbum on Apr 13, 2017 15:32:45 GMT -6
So with the Output transformer but none of the other features its $154 , before shipping .
I wasn't impressed with the CP5 which is $149 . The CP5 sounded small ......once you put the color module in , it sounded good . But plain stock it didn't sound too great in shoot outs I've heard .
Wonder how the Five Fish stands against the CP5 ?
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Post by rocinante on Apr 14, 2017 8:08:52 GMT -6
I too built a x12 and its a hiqh quality 312 esque mic pre. I built the rack version but its nearly identical. I bet one of those sk1's with an op transformer would be a damn good preamp. And for the price? Fugehdaboutit.
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Post by scumbum on Apr 14, 2017 9:49:35 GMT -6
So I guess it sounds the same as the SC-1 ,
"Note: The SC-1, SC-1mk2, SC-1mk3, SC-1mk500 (now renamed SC-501) and SK-1DI all have the same audio DNA, and share the same audio path circuitry. To read related reviews,"
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Post by mulmany on Apr 14, 2017 18:57:04 GMT -6
So I guess it sounds the same as the SC-1 , "Note: The SC-1, SC-1mk2, SC-1mk3, SC-1mk500 (now renamed SC-501) and SK-1DI all have the same audio DNA, and share the same audio path circuitry. To read related reviews," 4 channel SC-1 was my first Diy project. It sounds clean, with a little shimmer. Good utility pre.
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Post by mdmitch2 on Apr 14, 2017 20:28:54 GMT -6
So I guess it sounds the same as the SC-1 , "Note: The SC-1, SC-1mk2, SC-1mk3, SC-1mk500 (now renamed SC-501) and SK-1DI all have the same audio DNA, and share the same audio path circuitry. To read related reviews," 4 channel SC-1 was my first Diy project. It sounds clean, with a little shimmer. Good utility pre. Was that with or without transformer?
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Post by mulmany on Apr 14, 2017 20:36:43 GMT -6
4 channel SC-1 was my first Diy project. It sounds clean, with a little shimmer. Good utility pre. Was that with or without ntransformer? Without transformer. He came out with the transformer version 6 months after.
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Post by Guitar on May 28, 2017 10:40:38 GMT -6
I just built the NK-72DI kit, with the separate AML order for the two Carnhill transformers. I chose no options. Came to a total around $250. I marked the front panel with console tape and a sharpie. Right now it's set up with a GAR918BC Jensen-style op amp and it sounds laid back and 3-D huge at the same time. The 2520 op amp was kind of boring to me in this circuit. It's pretty exceptional on bass DI and acoustic guitar so far. Not so much lead vocal, too relaxed.
Overall, I can recommend the FiveFish kits generally. They seem well designed and are pretty easy to build. The owner of the company also seems very passionate and bright. I'll probably do another NK-72DI. I wish he would simplify the code names of his products, they are confusing and hard to remember.
Based on my experience with the SCA T15, which is another THAT IC based preamp, I think my smartest move will be to avoid these kinds of pres altogether in favor of 'slightly' more expensive options. For example the AML ez AM16 Langevin-style preamp clocks in right around $200 at the moment. CAPI VP312 also. SCA C84 also. I think the C84 is going to be my "clean" preamp, in lieu of the T15 or any other version of that circuit. If you're going to go transparent, why not go all the way.
My logic is, why waste valuable rack slots on middling IC pres when I already own an 8 channel Yamaha MLA-8, two Apollos, a Tascam UH-7000, a Presonus DP88, and so on. I'd rather buy another UH-7000 than two THAT pres. I'd rather buy another DP88 than three of them.
Maybe if you don't have any clean preamps this could be a smart option, with a nice DI. I just don't think it's going to win any blind shootouts over the other ones I mentioned.
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Post by jimwilliams on Jun 10, 2017 10:05:10 GMT -6
Looks like the Audio Upgrades PIP module would work/fit into that design. That would lower noise and THD plus increase low end depth. Slew rate is several times faster as well.
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Post by gouge on Mar 18, 2018 2:48:52 GMT -6
Looks like the Audio Upgrades PIP module would work/fit into that design. That would lower noise and THD plus increase low end depth. Slew rate is several times faster as well. Hi Jim. i'm looking at doing these with your pip modules. i was thinking a jensen output transformer. did you have any thoughts on the combination of the pip with an output transformer? thx.
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