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Post by scumbum on Dec 22, 2013 23:32:50 GMT -6
Is there a method I can use with Pro Tools 7.4 that can speed up drum tracks , like 7 bpm , that actually sounds good ?? That doesn't do a bunch of weird crap , ruining the sound with artifacts and other strange things ??
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Post by unit7 on Dec 23, 2013 3:00:51 GMT -6
According to this Elastic audio was introduced w PT7.4: en.wikiaudio.org/Pro_Tools:Elastic_audioDon't know how it sounded back then though, or if it was stable... But these days I think 7bpm works fine with drums/perc and monophonic instruments. Although going from 80bpm to 87 is much more (in %) than going from 120 to 127. |
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Post by wreck on Dec 23, 2013 9:04:02 GMT -6
Pretty sure 7.4 could not pull that off. Seems like 9 was the first time I could change tempo and the cymbals would hold.
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Post by unit7 on Dec 23, 2013 9:18:10 GMT -6
Pretty sure 7.4 could not pull that off. Seems like 9 was the first time I could change tempo and the cymbals would hold. Ok, I see. PT9 here and I never worked w EA before PT9, so... But does your experience/assumption include using the rendered process? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 23, 2013 11:29:20 GMT -6
Time for Scum to upgrade  |
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Post by unit7 on Dec 23, 2013 11:55:21 GMT -6
Time for Scum to upgrade Yeah, I thought I was the slow one |
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Post by wreck on Dec 23, 2013 13:04:30 GMT -6
I don't think it rendered well until they got elastic and x-form to a certain point. For me that was PT9. They only way to get decent cymbals is to render it with x-form. In my experience anyway. I just don't think elastic worked very well in 7.4 and I am not sure x-form was around back then. Maybe it was.
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Post by svart on Dec 23, 2013 14:25:13 GMT -6
I know it's a pain but I've had success with stuff like this by time aligning all the hits, chopping them up into single hits, changing the grid and then slipping them manually.
It works a lot better when compressing time than expanding time because you can do auto in/out fades and it sounds reasonably OK.
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Post by littlesicily on Dec 29, 2013 18:11:59 GMT -6
Speeding up is easy because nothing has to be stretched. Just use beat Detective to separate at all the transients.
Make sure all your tracks are in grid mode, not sample mode. Then just change the tempo of your session and cross fade and fill all the regions.
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Post by Ward on Dec 29, 2013 18:50:34 GMT -6
Speeding up is easy because nothing has to be stretched. Just use beat Detective to separate at all the transients. Make sure all your tracks are in grid mode, not sample mode. Then just change the tempo of your session and cross fade and fill all the regions. Exactly, time stretching to a slower tempo is where things really get tricky. Even in PT10, it's not perfect... but pretty believable in this day and age of autotune. |
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Post by littlesicily on Dec 29, 2013 19:00:27 GMT -6
I've had really good results with Melodyne... I've got the standalone unlimited track version. Sounds smoother on cymbal decay, most times, than elastic audio.
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