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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 18, 2013 11:34:05 GMT -6
Go...
I skipped the sub for a couple of days with the Pro Acs...and just don't feel it...
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Post by tonycamphd on Dec 18, 2013 11:51:56 GMT -6
I'm going for sub for the first time, will switch it in and out, I'm looking forward to the serious thump even if it's just for fun
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Post by mulmany on Dec 20, 2013 19:10:50 GMT -6
I would say it's in the integration of the sub. Are you adding it to the mains or using it to free up headroom in your main amp by filtering out the sub freq. I think it can get you in trouble and also be a help in how your mixes translate to big systems. I feel you really need good measurements, phase plots to integrate it perfectly. You can do it by ear/meter, either way it takes time and patience. I wrote a nice procedure over at that other place.
I am not running a sub, I only notice every now and then.
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Post by jazznoise on Dec 21, 2013 2:44:06 GMT -6
Until I have a fully treated space, no. Not hearing below 55hz is better than mishearing it. I can balance that stuff on headphones and on most playback systems it will be not be central anyway. Even still, I might just opt for full-range nearfields.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 12:19:33 GMT -6
jazznoise said what I was going to say. In addition to this, I HP everything at 50 in my mixes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 12:43:42 GMT -6
I have a sub now with the crossover set where the mains fall off, 50hz. I realize that seems weird but it really works here and prevents muddiness. I know it's not but it sounds flat all the way down.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Dec 21, 2013 15:05:43 GMT -6
My experience after twenty years of screwing around with subs is that they simply don't translate nearly as well as full range speakers no matter how well you "integrate" them. When I got into post in the '90s, I learned that post people had learned the same thing concerning "bass management." Full range speakers with a sub strictly limited to sound effects is the only situation they'd mix anything serious with. Troubleshooting low frequency problems can easily be done with headphones.
I'm not a popular guy with folks who sell subs...
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 21, 2013 15:08:20 GMT -6
And by full range speakers, do you mean 20Hz-20,000kHz? Or do you mean $10,000 ATC's?
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Dec 21, 2013 16:06:29 GMT -6
For movie work you are talking speakers that are flat down to 30-40. My mastering Duntechs are 27-20k. I fix lots of pops! Pro-Acs are very good too.
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