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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 16, 2013 20:21:24 GMT -6
My initial impression was...hmmm...not as thick as the Sta...but then again, it can do waaaay more...and it can sit ANYTHING right in your face. Obviously, it's able to clamp down on things much faster. Seems like the way a 1176 should sound...I'm gonna play with it for a couple weeks to see if we bond.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 16, 2013 22:05:47 GMT -6
OK...It's freaking good...This is gonna be hard to part with, but I'm not sure I can afford it! Here's a snippet (pardon the out of tunage) with Mic Rehab CV4 into a Helios into the 176. Actually went 12:1 which is higher than I would ever go with a 1176...fast attack slow release. Yes, I know it ain't perfect and yes, I might have pushed the pre a little too much...but I can hear the 176 goo... soundcloud.com/johnandkris/retro176scratch |
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Post by matt on Dec 16, 2013 23:26:16 GMT -6
I like it! I just don't hear this sort of sound out of a software emulation. Keep it awhile, I say.
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Post by levon on Dec 17, 2013 2:57:07 GMT -6
Sounds great, John. Keep it. I used a vintage 1176 rev D for the vocals on my last album and I was surprised/shocked about the ratio I would use. I always thought 4:1 was high enough, but I used 12:1 in the end and it sounded fantastic. And thank you very much John, now I want a Helios 69...  |
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Post by littlesicily on Dec 17, 2013 10:22:38 GMT -6
Johnkenn I really like this on your voice! Really focused.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Dec 17, 2013 19:09:08 GMT -6
I like it too. Not near as wooly as the Sta, more modern. Sounds like a 76. Good stuff.
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Post by sozocaps on Dec 17, 2013 20:05:39 GMT -6
OK...It's freaking good...This is gonna be hard to part with, but I'm not sure I can afford it! Here's a snippet (pardon the out of tunage) with Mic Rehab CV4 into a Helios into the 176. Actually went 12:1 which is higher than I would ever go with a 1176...fast attack slow release. Yes, I know it ain't perfect and yes, I might have pushed the pre a little too much...but I can hear the 176 goo... soundcloud.com/johnandkris/retro176scratchSounds great!... What incarnation mic is that ? you still have the Brute ? |
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Post by Ward on Dec 17, 2013 20:58:53 GMT -6
Sounds like a record. What more do you want? I might add a touch of LA2a or CL1b to it for extra gloss but that's it. Doesn't need any EQ.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 17, 2013 21:03:49 GMT -6
Speaking of "sounds like a record", John, do you have a track that this vocal goes with? I'd love if we could hear these cuts that you do in a mix too, in order to gain a bit of context.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 17, 2013 22:16:17 GMT -6
Well, truth be told, I EQ'd on the way in on the Helios...and I tried something different this time. I took -2db off with the 10Khz shelf and this time dialed out some 6khz because things were a little sibilant on some of my last few vocals. This is the Mic Rehab CV4...Shannon and I have talked about taking out some of that, but I've hesitate because I don't want to futz up a good thing...His last 10 or so CV4's have gone out with less top than mine - I was kind of the guinea pig.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 17, 2013 22:18:40 GMT -6
Just listened again...and damn - that does sound pretty damn good. Except for the singing...jeesh...you guys are lucky I have no shame...because that take sounded like shit.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 17, 2013 22:21:43 GMT -6
Oh - and I got tired of playing accompanying tracks every time I tested something...so I went on itunes and bought some super cheesy karaoke version of Simply Red's version of, "If You Don't Know Me By Now"...felt like it has really good dynamics for tests...and I always loved the song. I have certainly butchered it on this site enough.
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Post by brianellefson on Dec 17, 2013 22:51:58 GMT -6
Sounds great man. I've read about these but have never seen one personally or heard samples. I'm gonna think about picking one up possibly in place of the 1176 I was going to buy. I think enough guys are onto these things now and I've never heard a bad word about em.
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Post by Ward on Dec 18, 2013 12:44:58 GMT -6
Oh - and I got tired of playing accompanying tracks every time I tested something...so I went on itunes and bought some super cheesy karaoke version of Simply Red's version of, "If You Don't Know Me By Now"...felt like it has really good dynamics for tests...and I always loved the song. I have certainly butchered it on this site enough. Side question: What site do you use to buy karaoke versions of songs? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 18, 2013 13:46:01 GMT -6
I have no idea, actually, just the first one that popped up on itunes
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 14, 2014 14:02:27 GMT -6
Anyone else used the 176 or compared to the Sta? Just from the samples on Johnkenn's soundcloud, it seems to be a bit cleaner/less beefy than the sta, but sounds great. Any thoughts? |
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