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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 5, 2017 14:10:08 GMT -6
Great idea swurveman. Maybe send an email to UAD. They do pay attention to requests and suggestions. I'd also tell them that I paid $1,699.00 for their Quad PCIE card which they now sell for $699.00 Not at all happy about that. One of the worst hardware decisions I've made. I paid $4k or something for my Mac PowerBook 15 years ago. Couldn't give it away now. That's the nature of technology. Buying computers and peripherals is an expense that will lose 100% of it's value over a limited time. Technology is expendable.
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Post by indiehouse on Feb 5, 2017 14:41:45 GMT -6
I'd also tell them that I paid $1,699.00 for their Quad PCIE card which they now sell for $699.00 Not at all happy about that. One of the worst hardware decisions I've made. I paid $4k or something for my Mac PowerBook 15 years ago. Couldn't give it away now. That's the nature of technology. Buying computers and peripherals is an expense that will lose 100% of it's value over a limited time. Technology is expendable. Yep. UAD is not "hardware" per say, as much as they market it that way. It's computer tech, and it depreciates faster than (insert joke here).
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Post by indiehouse on Feb 5, 2017 14:50:12 GMT -6
If i get the Stam SSL compressor, I probably won't even use the 2500, or maybe just a little here and there. I see you saying this a lot. Making these blanket statements that hardware will always be better than a plugin. If it were me, I'd be doing some careful A/B'ing before casting aside a tool just because it doesn't have knobs. The Stam piece is great, I've had it. But the UAD 2500 is great too. Two different tools. Personally, I don't think the Stam is always going to be better than the 2500, or vice versa. But, I'd be willing to bet if you carefully A/B'd these two side by side, you wouldn't be so fast to cast aside a $300 tool just for the fact that it doesn't have knobs. That's just me, man. But I'm sure you're already hip to that.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 5, 2017 15:55:15 GMT -6
Good point indiehouse. I'll take that advice to heart.
I am learning as I go here, and I wouldn't be shocked if I did in fact prefer a plug like the API at times. The Stam is just the only classic hardware compressor that's affordable to me. I've always liked SSL boards, so I assume the SSL style compressor would be something I'd like too, but I won't know until I try it. I have this idea of an all hardware system, with plugs as flavoring. Plugs are brilliant for trying things like 5 different choruses to see which fits best, or 3 different bus compressors, etc. But I will keep an open mind and use whatever works best. For sure the UAD API 2500 is brilliant.
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Post by swurveman on Feb 5, 2017 16:22:54 GMT -6
I'd also tell them that I paid $1,699.00 for their Quad PCIE card which they now sell for $699.00 Not at all happy about that. One of the worst hardware decisions I've made. I paid $4k or something for my Mac PowerBook 15 years ago. Couldn't give it away now. That's the nature of technology. Buying computers and peripherals is an expense that will lose 100% of it's value over a limited time. Technology is expendable. I understand your point, but did they improve their quad pcie technology, or dump their profits off of it to compete better with Slate and Waves et. al.?
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Post by indiehouse on Feb 5, 2017 18:02:05 GMT -6
Good point indiehouse. I'll take that advice to heart. I am learning as I go here, and I wouldn't be shocked if I did in fact prefer a plug like the API at times. The Stam is just the only classic hardware compressor that's affordable to me. I've always liked SSL boards, so I assume the SSL style compressor would be something I'd like too, but I won't know until I try it. I have this idea of an all hardware system, with plugs as flavoring. Plugs are brilliant for trying things like 5 different choruses to see which fits best, or 3 different bus compressors, etc. But I will keep an open mind and use whatever works best. For sure the UAD API 2500 is brilliant. You do a lot of singer-songwriter folksie stuff, right? I wonder if you'd find the SSL too grabby for the buss? Maybe something slower?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 5, 2017 19:24:45 GMT -6
I paid $4k or something for my Mac PowerBook 15 years ago. Couldn't give it away now. That's the nature of technology. Buying computers and peripherals is an expense that will lose 100% of it's value over a limited time. Technology is expendable. I understand your point, but did they improve their quad pcie technology, or dump their profits off of it to compete better with Slate and Waves et. al.? No. The price of processing came down. Chips are cheaper.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 5, 2017 22:41:48 GMT -6
Good point indiehouse. I'll take that advice to heart. I am learning as I go here, and I wouldn't be shocked if I did in fact prefer a plug like the API at times. The Stam is just the only classic hardware compressor that's affordable to me. I've always liked SSL boards, so I assume the SSL style compressor would be something I'd like too, but I won't know until I try it. I have this idea of an all hardware system, with plugs as flavoring. Plugs are brilliant for trying things like 5 different choruses to see which fits best, or 3 different bus compressors, etc. But I will keep an open mind and use whatever works best. For sure the UAD API 2500 is brilliant. You do a lot of singer-songwriter folksie stuff, right? I wonder if you'd find the SSL too grabby for the buss? Maybe something slower? What would you guess would be a good fit? My music is in the same general direction as Tom Petty/Ryan Adams/Lyle Lovett..
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Post by swurveman on Feb 6, 2017 8:01:29 GMT -6
I understand your point, but did they improve their quad pcie technology, or dump their profits off of it to compete better with Slate and Waves et. al.? No. The price of processing came down. Chips are cheaper. The Sharq processor was $30.00 in 2008. There are four of them in my UAD-2 Quad Pcie. Call me skeptical believing their price decrease resulted in a price decrease overall from $1,699.00 to $699.00. I think they dumped their profits, which were huge, to compete with cheaper competitors that didn't require a hardware purchase. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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