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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 10, 2017 5:51:48 GMT -6
fro PT Xperts: i7 quad, over 3.0 gigaherts turbo speed, 32 gigs of ram, tbolt2/usbc, and lots of other goodies  size of a vcr tape |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 10, 2017 6:24:22 GMT -6
Damn. Nice Pte excited about something...imagine that |
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Post by gouge on Jan 10, 2017 7:22:59 GMT -6
I once had a conversation with the legend that is Richard Rogers..
The architect Baron Rogers of Riverside
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 10, 2017 7:44:03 GMT -6
Damn. Nice Pte excited about something...imagine that Ya that is a great little computer ! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 11:50:37 GMT -6
I once had a conversation with the legend that is Richard Rogers.. The architect Baron Rogers of Riverside Is this a game? I once had a conversation with the Arch Dragon Lord legend that is Puff. The magic dragon, that lives by the sea. kcatthedog Actually looks pretty handy, I'll check out full specs.. Having a noisey full tower ATX isn't ideal . |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 10, 2017 13:01:19 GMT -6
Ya in the context of the recent conversation here about the new MBP adn mini's depending on the platform you want this is very well spec'ed !
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Post by b1 on Jan 10, 2017 13:14:41 GMT -6
I believe I'd wait for AMDs soon to be released Ryzen CPU and check into meeting and or exceeding the high end Intel i7 ($1k) platform at a fraction of the cost. It looks promising...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 13:36:53 GMT -6
b1 , how long have we been saying that now? kcatthedog I checked out the specs, they are laptop versions of the I7. Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing as the 4810MQ in my ROG is a very fast CPU which copes well with heavier tasks than music audio. Just why bother with the desktop? For about 200 - 300 more you could get a laptop with the same CPU in it??!
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 10, 2017 14:26:34 GMT -6
Doesn't matter to me  does the laptop have the fastest dd4 ram and 32 gigs of it and can it beat the other features of this new computer ? Its like anything analyze the features/cost and decide what creates the most benefit: buy that, what ever that is ! |
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Post by rocinante on Jan 10, 2017 14:28:21 GMT -6
b1 , how long have we been saying that now? kcatthedog I checked out the specs, they are laptop versions of the I7. Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing as the 4810MQ in my ROG is a very fast CPU which copes well with heavier tasks than music audio. Just why bother with the desktop? For about 200 - 300 more you could get a laptop with the same CPU in it??! Yeah but you can expand a desktop. Maybe not the one advertised but i cant work without dual monitors (not to mention the third and fourth for close up stuff and the artist. Plus external gear, midi keyboard controllers, control surfaces, external hdd, plus the capability to upgrade ram, add hard drives internally, better video card options, etc... If everything was usb3 and thunderbolt i would kind of make amends but theres still a lot of cool pc gear for desktops at the moment it seems like one would be selling themselves short. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 14:56:03 GMT -6
b1 , how long have we been saying that now? kcatthedog I checked out the specs, they are laptop versions of the I7. Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing as the 4810MQ in my ROG is a very fast CPU which copes well with heavier tasks than music audio. Just why bother with the desktop? For about 200 - 300 more you could get a laptop with the same CPU in it??! Yeah but you can expand a desktop. Maybe not the one advertised but i cant work without dual monitors (not to mention the third and fourth for close up stuff and the artist. Plus external gear, midi keyboard controllers, control surfaces, external hdd, plus the capability to upgrade ram, add hard drives internally, better video card options, etc... If everything was usb3 and thunderbolt i would kind of make amends but theres still a lot of cool pc gear for desktops at the moment it seems like one would be selling themselves short. That's definatley not correct.. Firstly the Intel NUC is essentially a laptop that's been shoved into an ITX closed case, good luck putting a GTX 1080 in one of those (it ain't going to happen). Secondly any half decent laptop you can upgrade, I've had a Clevo Laptop which I swapped out the RAM / HDD / GPU. Not to mention it had TB ports and anything like midi interfaces / HDD's etc. will work via it's USB / TB ports and every decent laptop I've had supports multi-monitor out.. Even the OEM ROG I have you can upgrade the RAM / swap out HDD's (not that I would as they come with M.2's and 1TB SSD's), today they use desktop based GPU's. Yes you will pay through the roof for GPU upgrades but it's still an option. If you're talking about a completely seperate topic which would be how does a mid range OEM POS laptop compared to a regular desktop, then I'll agree. |
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Post by rocinante on Jan 10, 2017 17:33:14 GMT -6
My bad i wasnt comparing the NUC, I was comparing to a nice desktop. IMHO yes you can get a hi end laptop that has multiple ports, upgradable, and has multiple outs but it still doesnt have the options and capabilities of an upgradeable desktop for much less. Nearly every port in my pc is used and i have hubs as well. I feel trying to hook up four mobitors to a laptop would be cumbersome. I like have swappable internal hdds especially for clients and i always have the option to use various hi end legacy cards still via pcie so i can operate at simultaneous 24-48 in and outs wuthout issue. I guess thunderbolt will replace the pcie but that just makes it more affordable for me as I'll be the one buying the older pcie cards. If one doesnt need thst much in out nor the monitors, sweet ass i7 with thunderbolt lappy all the way but its gonna cost.
Dont get me wrong, i plan on buying another laptop to also run the studio but as of right now, the desktop is ny best option.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 17:46:16 GMT -6
My bad i wasnt comparing the NUC, I was comparing to a nice desktop. IMHO yes you can get a hi end laptop that has multiple ports, upgradable, and has multiple outs but it still doesnt have the options and capabilities of an upgradeable desktop for much less. Nearly every port in my pc is used and i have hubs as well. I feel trying to hook up four mobitors to a laptop would be cumbersome. I like have swappable internal hdds especially for clients and i always have the option to use various hi end legacy cards still via pcie so i can operate at simultaneous 24-48 in and outs wuthout issue. I guess thunderbolt will replace the pcie but that just makes it more affordable for me as I'll be the one buying the older pcie cards. If one doesnt need thst much in out nor the monitors, sweet ass i7 with thunderbolt lappy all the way but its gonna cost. Dont get me wrong, i plan on buying another laptop to also run the studio but as of right now, the desktop is ny best option. Also to mention those ROG's are damn expensive. I agree you can build a desktop for the same price which would wipe the floor with it (I have done), but portability and all that.. On a side note, the latest MOTU's can be run over a network as an audio device via AVB on MAC. What I said YEARS ago is finally starting to happen, TB is expensive and it's throughput / latency can't match ethernet which is a universal long standing well protocol'd highly developed product. TB's 40Gbps? IEEE are now working on 400Gbps ethernet.. They kind of said they could do Terrabit ethernet as well, but there was no real point. Things could very much change over the next couple of years, so I'd keep a close eye on it.. |
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Post by rocinante on Jan 10, 2017 18:21:30 GMT -6
Ive already decided the motu 16a is my next big investment. It seems to be only getting better. And cheaper.
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Post by Ward on Jan 11, 2017 9:13:50 GMT -6
But, how easily will it run Mac OS X??
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size of a vcr tape 
does the laptop have the fastest dd4 ram and 32 gigs of it and can it beat the other features of this new computer ? 
