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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 8, 2017 0:35:02 GMT -6
Lookie here (pic taken just before I made the other gar2520)Oh man. What a glorious sound. I will not tell a lie, though - that was a slightly dense build. I am happy it is over. I enjoyed it, but it was a test of my patience more than any other build I have done(this was my first EQ) Totally worth it, though as it sounds as good as you would expect it to. Now if I can just put a bunch of VP28s in front of a bunch of BT50s... I do think I may have botched one of my beautiful Grayhills. Its a good bit sticky between 4 and 12 db + on the low band. I'll just tell myself it'll loosen up over the years. Otherwise, perfect build out of the gate. Gotta love it when a good plan comes together. Thanks for the cool gear kits, Jeff Steiger!
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 8, 2017 20:12:27 GMT -6
OK fellers, here are some sounds for you. The tune is a track I recorded entirely with a vp28 except the upright bass, which was run through the vp28 during mix time. This is the same waltz from my vp28 review. I went in and eq'd and rendered one at a time each track until I was happy. What I ended up with very easily was a more polished and detailed version of the same track. Just a touch can do wonders. I certainly didn't think the first one was bad, as I like warm sounds - but this one certainly sounds special(to me - I may have just effed it all up, who knows) Don't be afraid to post. I know I smell bad, but this is over the interest, fellas. VP 28 acoustic waltz no EQVP 28 acoustic waltz BT50 all |
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Post by svart on Jan 9, 2017 8:18:31 GMT -6
Looks good, sounds good.
The sticky turn of your switch might be the knob scraping against the nut. Try giving a little gap between the knob and the nut/faceplate and see if it's better.
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 9, 2017 10:45:29 GMT -6
Looks good, sounds good. The sticky turn of your switch might be the knob scraping against the nut. Try giving a little gap between the knob and the nut/faceplate and see if it's better. Thanks! Yes - I was hoping it would just be binding there... alas, even with a solid 1/16" gap, the issue remains. I think I need to up my iron temp and go real light and quick and alternate rows(like Jeff mentions in his guide) My ham fisted mentality came in when I read that, though - I thought "these are nice expensive Grayhills, aint no way they can't take a little heat" Alas, they are more fragile than I realized. |
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Post by rowmat on Jan 9, 2017 16:52:56 GMT -6
Cool! I only just finished my first of two BT50's yesterday and have started on the second. I'm experimenting with different op amps and am going to try out a nickel output transformer. Build isn't too bad apart from inserting the Grayhills into the PCB which can be a little tricky. Try a LC53A if you like fairly intense DIY builds!  FYI I always avoid consecutively soldering closely spaced adjacent pins on components and move around as I solder to avoid heat stressing any one particular area. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 10, 2017 22:31:18 GMT -6
Cool! I only just finished my first of two BT50's yesterday and have started on the second. I'm experimenting with different op amps and am going to try out a nickel output transformer. Build isn't too bad apart from inserting the Grayhills into the PCB which can be a little tricky. Try a LC53A if you like fairly intense DIY builds! FYI I always avoid consecutively soldering closely spaced adjacent pins on components and move around as I solder to avoid heat stressing any one particular area. I've looked at the LC53A, and yea, I'll have to do one just to have one, but I doubt I'll make more than a couple. That looks intense. Although, for what I make per hour, it's more than worth my time, I think. The Grayhill insertion took me a second, but once you get the feel for it, it's no biggie. I need to avoid heat stressing. That was probably my mistake. Things probably got a little gooey in there. What do you think about the sound so far? Are you using a Cinemag for the nickel OT? I'm not smart enough to find what requirements are needed to go a get another TX. Sounds fun, though! I am just happy to be analog-eqing. It's great. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 12, 2017 6:27:56 GMT -6
I am very interested in a pair of Capi eqs.
I was up on the site reading the options.
Any opinions about why this one over the others ? I have built diy c12 and mk-u47 so have some experience.
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 12, 2017 21:20:38 GMT -6
I am very interested in a pair of Capi eqs. I was up on the site reading the options. Any opinions about why this one over the others ? I have built diy c12 and mk-u47 so have some experience. Well I can't offer much expertise, but really I chose this one because the 550 is a revered EQ. I am sure I will build some graphics like the LC25 or 40 as well, but Ocean Way west has like 28 550s if I recall... for a reason. And they were used judiciously on what I think may be the best sounding album I have ever heard - Beck's "Sea Change" A 550 just works. But in a perfect world, I would have some of each. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 12, 2017 21:24:03 GMT -6
Thx ! I think the some of each thing was what I was thinking. I saw the new lindell 10 slot chassis with db25 connections so it got me thinking about 500 series again  glad you are happy with the 550 ! |
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Post by rowmat on Jan 12, 2017 21:29:38 GMT -6
I am very interested in a pair of Capi eqs. I was up on the site reading the options. Any opinions about why this one over the others ? I have built diy c12 and mk-u47 so have some experience. "... Ocean Way west has like 28 550s if I recall... for a reason. And they were used judiciously on what I think may be the best sounding album I have ever heard - Beck's "Sea Change"..." Sorry but your recollection is wrong. Ocean Way LA, Studio 'B' does not have 28 API 550A's... they have 40!!  |
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 12, 2017 21:34:53 GMT -6
And the gyratory EQs like the LC53a are a little more musical probably. The Graphics have fixed bands and seem a little more pointy in their Q. The 550(and LC53a I think) have the narrowing bands as you push them more. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by rowmat on Jan 12, 2017 22:31:00 GMT -6
And the gyratory EQs like the LC53a are a little more musical probably. The Graphics have fixed bands and seem a little more pointy in their Q. The 550(and LC53a I think) have the narrowing bands as you push them more. Correct me if I am wrong. I would describe the LC53A's as being fairly 'soft' EQ's. They are not aggressive sounding even when pushed. The BT50 is can provide a little more sheen in the highs than the LC53A if that's what you prefer. Both are proportional style EQ's as their bands narrow with increasing boost/cut. I have owned two LC53A's for about two years, just finished building two BT50's and I'm planning on at least two more BT50's. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 12, 2017 22:34:55 GMT -6
Thx ! I think the some of each thing was what I was thinking. I saw the new lindell 10 slot chassis with db25 connections so it got me thinking about 500 series again glad you are happy with the 550 ! Right on! Give it a try! I am definitely happy. There are many flavors of wonderful analog goodness out there. CAPI makes it fun for you to build yourself! |
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 12, 2017 22:35:57 GMT -6
"... Ocean Way west has like 28 550s if I recall... for a reason. And they were used judiciously on what I think may be the best sounding album I have ever heard - Beck's "Sea Change"..." Sorry but your recollection is wrong. Ocean Way LA, Studio 'B' does not have 28 API 550A's... they have 40!! MEIN GOTT IN HIMMEL!!!! 40!!!! Hahahaha. Insanity, I tell you! |
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 12, 2017 22:38:46 GMT -6
And the gyratory EQs like the LC53a are a little more musical probably. The Graphics have fixed bands and seem a little more pointy in their Q. The 550(and LC53a I think) have the narrowing bands as you push them more. Correct me if I am wrong. I would describe the LC53A's as being fairly 'soft' EQ's. They are not aggressive sounding even when pushed. The BT50 is can provide a little more sheen in the highs than the LC53A if that's what you prefer. Both are proportional style EQ's as their bands narrow with increasing boost/cut. I have owned two LC53A's for about two years, just finished building two BT50's and I'm planning on at least two more BT50's. Very good. That reminds me of my Phoenix Q4m eq, which is gyratory and very very musical and kind sounding. You can crank the knobs all over the place easily. Though it usually requires you to push it a little more, too. I definitely notice the high end sheen on the BT 50. Sounds like the LC53a's should be on my list down the road, too. The boosts on the BT50 can sometimes be a pinch much at a minimum of +2. On the LC53a I imagine that's a little more subtle sounding. |
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