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Post by jin167 on Jan 5, 2017 3:10:55 GMT -6
www.computeraudiophile.com/f7-disk-storage-music-library-storage/does-solid-state-drive-sound-better-hard-disk-1650/Because you've been missing out. A SSD will make your music sound quazillion times better! Seriously. Today, I've encountered a mastering guy who is supposedly working at one of the top mastering facility in my country saying that playing back music through a SSD will dramatically improve the quality of the sound. At first I thought of this as a cheeky joke but man was I wrong. He wasn't joking. Of course, he didn't have any experimental data or a sensible theory to back up his claim (as expected) but he was dead serious about this. Now, I've heard some folks talking about a HDD noise affecting the PSU of a computer and this in turn affecting the performance of a device operating on a USB power, degrading the quality of the output which I think is understandable but we are talking about a professional mastering facility. Ever heard of a mastering facility using anything running on a USB power? I don't know. Maybe there is something I haven't figured out yet. It would have been really helpful if that mastering dude had a sensible explanation for his observation rather than 'I trust my ears' repertoire because, well, I don't. Anyone on this board have any idea on this particular topic?
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 5, 2017 3:34:41 GMT -6
This is not Gearslutz .....
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Post by jin167 on Jan 5, 2017 3:46:28 GMT -6
This is not Gearslutz ..... well I'm not sure what you mean but the title of the thread is meant to be sarcastic. But then again, recently I came to learn that there are many, many things that I don't fully understand..
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Post by ericn on Jan 5, 2017 8:11:40 GMT -6
This is not Gearslutz ..... well I'm not sure what you mean but the title of the thread is meant to be sarcastic. But then again, recently I came to learn that there are many, many things that I don't fully understand.. Sarcasim begot sarcasim! I have been told floppy drives sound even better, and SCSI presents the tightest bass😎
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Post by sozocaps on Jan 5, 2017 8:55:31 GMT -6
ummm it all gets buffered in types of physical memory (several times[HD cache, motherboard buses, Interface card, RAM) before it is delivered to your conversion...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 8:57:51 GMT -6
My one's and zero's sound better than your one's and zero's..
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Post by EmRR on Jan 5, 2017 9:03:44 GMT -6
There's always a client per year who sees the legacy ADAT's in my racks and wants to use them because "it's tape and that's better".
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 5, 2017 9:23:28 GMT -6
Ha. Be nice peeps...but I would argue there isn't much merit to that claim.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 5, 2017 9:27:34 GMT -6
My one's and zero's sound better than your one's and zero's.. ok, but mine are still bigger than yours
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Post by rocinante on Jan 5, 2017 9:31:01 GMT -6
This is not Gearslutz ..... Yeah but that's a pretty funny reply.
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Post by donr on Jan 5, 2017 10:21:49 GMT -6
Remember when people insisted on burning audio CD-R's at 1x speed? Otherwise, it sounded like crap.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 5, 2017 10:26:32 GMT -6
This is not Gearslutz ..... Yeah but that's a pretty funny reply. I laughed
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 10:31:09 GMT -6
My one's and zero's sound better than your one's and zero's.. ok, but mine are still bigger than yours Ha, just noticed you can like your own posts HEHEH!..
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Post by Ward on Jan 5, 2017 10:48:15 GMT -6
You're all just spouting and spewing BS here! It's not until you inverse to 0s and 1s that you truly hear the difference! But then again, only 'some' of us can actually hear it. <cheeky mode off>
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 5, 2017 10:54:23 GMT -6
ok, but mine are still bigger than yours Ha, just noticed you can like your own posts HEHEH!.. Ya, I like that too:speaking objectively !!
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Post by EmRR on Jan 5, 2017 10:54:29 GMT -6
Remember when people insisted on burning audio CD-R's at 1x speed? Otherwise, it sounded like crap. Being a physical process, there was something to burning 2x for awhile, a 1x would over-burn, and increasing speed over 2X would raise the error rate through under-burns. As CD-R tech and burners changed over time, that sort of went away, but 1x was never optimal.
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Post by thehightenor on Jan 5, 2017 11:21:10 GMT -6
I have a "0" saturator device attached to my HD.
It causes there to be extra instances of "0" instead of the less musical "1" in any given DATA stream - it's subtle for sure - but I think it was worth the extra expense.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 11:25:54 GMT -6
I have a "0" saturator device attached to my HD. It causes there to be extra instances of "0" instead of the less musical "1" in any given DATA stream - it's subtle for sure - but I think it was worth the extra expense. Oh, so it makes about as much difference as a pre-amp then? (waiting for the flames, mwahahah).!
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Post by johneppstein on Jan 5, 2017 11:49:44 GMT -6
www.computeraudiophile.com/f7-disk-storage-music-library-storage/does-solid-state-drive-sound-better-hard-disk-1650/Because you've been missing out. A SSD will make your music sound quazillion times better! Seriously. Today, I've encountered a mastering guy who is supposedly working at one of the top mastering facility in my country saying that playing back music through a SSD will dramatically improve the quality of the sound. At first I thought of this as a cheeky joke but man was I wrong. He wasn't joking. Of course, he didn't have any experimental data or a sensible theory to back up his claim (as expected) but he was dead serious about this. Now, I've heard some folks talking about a HDD noise affecting the PSU of a computer and this in turn affecting the performance of a device operating on a USB power, degrading the quality of the output which I think is understandable but we are talking about a professional mastering facility. Ever heard of a mastering facility using anything running on a USB power? I don't know. Maybe there is something I haven't figured out yet. It would have been really helpful if that mastering dude had a sensible explanation for his observation rather than 'I trust my ears' repertoire because, well, I don't. Anyone on this board have any idea on this particular topic? Sorry to inject a note of seriousness into all the (justly deserved) levity, but..... I haven't heard that and it doesn't make sense. However what I HAVE heard is that some or all SSDs do not have nearly as good long term data rertention as "old fashioned" HDDs.
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Post by rocinante on Jan 5, 2017 12:20:50 GMT -6
I try to back up my sdd's onto hdd's weekly. SDD's are fast. The difference isnt subtle. How they interconnect with the rest of the pc and the noticeable difference in load time makes them a must have for the modern studio but... Well my friend just got a friend request approval from the 'Flat Earth Society's Facebook page. They are for real.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 5, 2017 13:29:56 GMT -6
I think as long as you back up: the SSD speed advantage speaks for itself. Eventually, you have physical degradation vs catastrophic failure to factor in, but if you are keeping drives for over 5 years, maybe just replace them as a preventative measure ?
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Post by EmRR on Jan 5, 2017 13:41:31 GMT -6
I just replaced all the HD's in my work-in-progress RAID and a couple older outboard drive bays. All were 6+ years old, going on too long. They run faster from the de-frag, I assume.
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Post by svart on Jan 5, 2017 15:18:01 GMT -6
www.computeraudiophile.com/f7-disk-storage-music-library-storage/does-solid-state-drive-sound-better-hard-disk-1650/Because you've been missing out. A SSD will make your music sound quazillion times better! Seriously. Today, I've encountered a mastering guy who is supposedly working at one of the top mastering facility in my country saying that playing back music through a SSD will dramatically improve the quality of the sound. At first I thought of this as a cheeky joke but man was I wrong. He wasn't joking. Of course, he didn't have any experimental data or a sensible theory to back up his claim (as expected) but he was dead serious about this. Now, I've heard some folks talking about a HDD noise affecting the PSU of a computer and this in turn affecting the performance of a device operating on a USB power, degrading the quality of the output which I think is understandable but we are talking about a professional mastering facility. Ever heard of a mastering facility using anything running on a USB power? I don't know. Maybe there is something I haven't figured out yet. It would have been really helpful if that mastering dude had a sensible explanation for his observation rather than 'I trust my ears' repertoire because, well, I don't. Anyone on this board have any idea on this particular topic? Sorry to inject a note of seriousness into all the (justly deserved) levity, but..... I haven't heard that and it doesn't make sense. However what I HAVE heard is that some or all SSDs do not have nearly as good long term data rertention as "old fashioned" HDDs. The memory cells actually wear out. They have a finite life span of writes. It used to be roughly 3-4 years in heavily used systems, but I believe they are better than that now. They also used to be MUCH faster on the first write-through. The drives would only write to unused cells, after which, the drive would become considerably slower. This was something that wasn't mentioned at their inception.. I don't know if this was changed in newer designs though.
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 5, 2017 16:36:53 GMT -6
This is not Gearslutz ..... well I'm not sure what you mean but the title of the thread is meant to be sarcastic. But then again, recently I came to learn that there are many, many things that I don't fully understand.. You can read Gearslutz without a few vicodins.... Congratulations...
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Post by bowie on Jan 5, 2017 17:09:25 GMT -6
Everyone thinks it's cute to laugh about this stuff but some of us take it very seriously. Your SSD is nothing without input transformers.
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