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Post by viciousbliss on Dec 4, 2016 13:39:23 GMT -6
Any other Waverider users here? I've been using it for almost two years on everything. Never thought it made anything sound worse, but it doesn't allow for moves like CLA does in the CLA Audio Legends course(unless you do them with a mouse or control, of course). When I tried those files I found myself wanting to make a lot of the same moves bc those tracks were very undynamic. From what I recall, everything in that course was run through CLA's prepping gear, so, that could be why they were the way they were. The Ken Lewis audio school lessons I bought don't feature a ton of fader riding. I've only ever heard of Pensado using Waverider when it comes to famous music mixers, and his endorsement quote doesn't say how he used it. To me, the results are good enough that I couldn't really justify buying a control surface and individually working on each channel(not to mention Waverider can do things no human could do). With Waverider I can setup 32 channels at once and listen. I do tend to use clipgain a bit when I want to individually work on tracks or parts of tracks. Anyway, I've just always been curious as to why volume riding plugs don't seem to be widely used.
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Post by illacov on Dec 4, 2016 15:30:35 GMT -6
Between the use of VCAs and the automation being used more to feature a source, there you have it. A low track count full band mix might only require 16 recorded tracks. FX might require rides. Lead Vocal will need rides of some sort. Drums might need brute force rides in 2 or 3 sections, guitars maybe 2 spots. You get the picture?
If you can focus on the song's arrangement, you can very quickly plan out your automation moves and between you and the producer or if thats you, you can knock out some serious automation pretty quickly with a mouse. Especially if you use VCAs.
Ive always been very fortunate for lead vocal rides, a good deal of it revolves around extremely judicious use of compression during tracking or mixing. I also tend to let the compressor tell me what works from section to section. I normally don't have too much trouble with word to word edits, Reaper's pencil tool is fast and easy to use with my Marble Mouse. Part of it is my technique. I more so focused on words that dont have impact than words that do. Unless you have a bad take, you can pick out whats off very quickly. I do lots of listening before edits. Once that lead vocal is a money maker, everything else falls into place very quickly. I really enjoying using pre-fx volume for this.
I would love a 16 channel control surface for certain, but I need fully motorized faders, easy to read display and a built espresso maker. Otherwise I'm mouseketeering.
Thanks
-L.
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Post by illacov on Dec 4, 2016 15:32:46 GMT -6
Oh, the gain rider stuff I've tried I feel like they aren't transparent. It seems bizarre for me to say that considering how analog minded I am, but I prefer to get my color elsewhere, so I stick with volume and prefx volume for rides etc...
Thanks
-L.
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