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Dec 10, 2016 18:35:37 GMT -6
Post by ollierikkeskinen on Dec 10, 2016 18:35:37 GMT -6
Hey guys!
soothe 1.0.7 is out, featuring several minor bug fixes and the option to disable OpenGL!
Thanks, Olli
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Dec 10, 2016 18:53:39 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 18:53:39 GMT -6
hi ollie, what is OpenGL, not sure if i need to tick this? Thanks.
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Dec 12, 2016 15:40:24 GMT -6
Post by ollierikkeskinen on Dec 12, 2016 15:40:24 GMT -6
hi ollie, what is OpenGL, not sure if i need to tick this? Thanks. OpenGL is a way to move the interface drawing from CPU to graphics card, so it generally is a very good thing! The option to go without it is just a workaround, that hopefully you won't need.
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Dec 12, 2016 17:30:44 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 17:30:44 GMT -6
hi ollie, what is OpenGL, not sure if i need to tick this? Thanks. OpenGL is a way to move the interface drawing from CPU to graphics card, so it generally is a very good thing! The option to go without it is just a workaround, that hopefully you won't need. Ok thanks - didn't want to install until I knew ....
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Dec 12, 2016 17:37:00 GMT -6
Post by kcatthedog on Dec 12, 2016 17:37:00 GMT -6
So the resource demand is running on the graphics card not your cpu ?
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Dec 13, 2016 12:44:13 GMT -6
Post by ollierikkeskinen on Dec 13, 2016 12:44:13 GMT -6
So the resource demand is running on the graphics card not your cpu ? The GUI is quite heavy because of the real time plot, it will contribute another sootheful of CPU hit if OpenGL is not used. Without OpenGL all of the interface drawing is also running on the CPU which should be dedicated to audio processing. So it is strongly recommended NOT to disable the OpenGL, if the GUI is working properly.
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Dec 14, 2016 9:22:33 GMT -6
Post by Johnkenn on Dec 14, 2016 9:22:33 GMT -6
ollierikkeskinen what's this thing about adding distortion to the delta portion and then putting back in?
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Dec 14, 2016 10:16:56 GMT -6
Post by henge on Dec 14, 2016 10:16:56 GMT -6
ollierikkeskinen what's this thing about adding distortion to the delta portion and then putting back in? Seems like someone on GS tried saturating the delta portion and mixing it back in. But...soothe zeroes in on the bad shit we don't want. Why would you want to saturate that? Also, I think most of the plugs I use already do "dynamic saturation". ( Slate, Kush etc...). I love soothe but this saturation application seems a bit off...that being said I haven't tried the technique.
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Dec 14, 2016 13:05:00 GMT -6
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Post by tasteliketape on Dec 14, 2016 13:05:00 GMT -6
I tried the saturation thing after soothe in delta mode on a vocal track buss , really liked the result ,but it was a quick test at the end of the day so today may be different with fresh 👂
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Post by ollierikkeskinen on Dec 15, 2016 13:15:55 GMT -6
I gotta say, I tried the delta saturation trick and was blown away. What it basically is about, instead of just losing the unwanted frequencies, what if we instead turned them into harmonic distortion, so saturate the delta signal and sum it back in with the soothe processed stuff. I haven't measured the process yet, but I'd imagine that it breaks the excessive frequencies apart into harmonic components. So you get the benefit of saturations, a richer sound, without squashing the transients.
I'd love to hear what you guys think about this!
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May 26, 2017 0:34:30 GMT -6
Post by viciousbliss on May 26, 2017 0:34:30 GMT -6
Are you guys still high on this plug? I read about it in threads about the Waves F6 and that TDR De-Edger and decided to try it as a first insert. Wow this thing is amazing. I literally don't have to do much aside from turning the selectivity all the way down and the bandwidth to 2.1 and it pretty much gets rid of all the junk frequencies I've been trying to get rid of forever. Even the horrible streaming quality on my hearthis.at site with all my covers sounds great on cheap speakers. Took out the VLB902 de-esser since I only have 10 inserts in PT. Soothe makes it obsolete. I just leave the 902 on some of the fx tracks. Earlier today I did a different batch of songs with the HOFA IQ EQ for the first time. The results were better than when I used no dynamic eq, but it's far below what Soothe achieved. Feels like I fixed some big issues but created a couple minor new ones. Not a bad compromise, but not ideal. Have not tried the F6 yet. Some of what I'm working with are instrumentals with a vocal track on top, so there already isn't a lot of space to fit the vox into. I just left soothe on the instrumental in its default state and it really allowed the vox and instrumental to blend well without all these obvious frequency clashes. Most of these tracks, if not all, have Pro Q2 on the vox and maybe the master fader where I'm just pulling down a few peaks with spectrum grab. I've not deactivated Pro Q2 to see if Soothe makes it obsolete too. In the past, I've tried that Smart EQ, but it used so much cpu. In sessions where I had multiple instrument tracks, I found that I could pretty much just put Soothe on the individual vocal tracks and that was enough. So whatever EQ I did with Bx_console seemed to be enough for them. Soothe did help with a vocal where the second verse seemed different in tonality and eq than the first even though they were recorded in one take. I had already Audiosuited an API550 and CLA3A on the second verse to match them better and even after doing that, Soothe still got them quite a bit closer. Definitely want to try some more stuff with this and that Delta saturation trick does sound interesting. Did anyone ever post an example of it anywhere?
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May 26, 2017 8:41:38 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on May 26, 2017 8:41:38 GMT -6
I've occasionally thought I'd heard some artifacts from soothe, but man, most of the time it can be a lifesaver.
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Post by c0rtland on May 26, 2017 9:00:34 GMT -6
Can't believe I missed this thread before. I picked it up. Gonna use it on some mixes today.
Thanks guys!
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May 26, 2017 9:47:05 GMT -6
Post by Martin John Butler on May 26, 2017 9:47:05 GMT -6
I've heard a few artifacts, but most times it's brilliant. A little dab'll do ya.
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Post by unit7 on May 26, 2017 13:29:44 GMT -6
Bought it when I was hired to mix a project with a vocal recorded in the living room. It had the weirdest things going on. Quickest fix I've ever encountered for such a messed up track. Haven't used it until the other week when I mixed a violin jazz album. Only a slight problem with some resonances on the violin, but it seemed a bit random with no particular nodes I could notch out, so I tried Soothe and it worked great. The violin player was very happy with the sound of her instrument which for me always is the ultimate verdict
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May 26, 2017 17:48:59 GMT -6
Post by Johnkenn on May 26, 2017 17:48:59 GMT -6
I know...I actually tend to forget about it...probably need to use it more.
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Post by ChaseUTB on May 26, 2017 23:06:17 GMT -6
I know...I actually tend to forget about it...probably need to use it more. If you are in Pro Tools, go into the insert plugin menu click the insert while holding command and select your Soothe plugin. This will move it all the way to the top and make a new category above the lists!
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Post by M57 on May 28, 2017 6:40:40 GMT -6
I know...I actually tend to forget about it...probably need to use it more. I don't know what I'd do without it. For those of us who aren't recording in a perfect environment or need to deal with bumps/spikes related to equipment and/or performance flaws, it's a godsend. The trick for me now is learning how to use it more judiciously.
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May 28, 2017 9:04:47 GMT -6
Post by Johnkenn on May 28, 2017 9:04:47 GMT -6
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May 28, 2017 9:48:34 GMT -6
Post by Martin John Butler on May 28, 2017 9:48:34 GMT -6
Will check it out later, thanks John. Kinda pricey for a relatively unknown company. How is it different from Sooth?
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Post by viciousbliss on May 28, 2017 12:16:11 GMT -6
I tried deedger in place of soothe on a vocal as first insert. Not really the same thing and not really a deesser either. It doesnt treat resonances like soothe. It is a cool plug. Heard it works great for harsh cymbals.
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Post by jampa on May 28, 2017 16:30:13 GMT -6
I picked up De-Edger. As Vicious says, a different beast to Soothe.
Softened some tracks I was wrestling..... I find the mix with it more relaxing. So, I've only had it for a day.
They have an unlimited time demo - you can't save settings. However, as the devs pointed out, you can set it and bounce it down...
A bit like an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff, but if you're there, you want the ambulance..... So I have Soothe and De-Edger in my toolbox.
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May 31, 2017 13:13:29 GMT -6
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Post by c0rtland on May 31, 2017 13:13:29 GMT -6
Sounds like I could have used this on a vocal about six months ago. I had an issue I first thought was either a distorting mic or a distorting pre. Turned out it was distorting vocal chords! Never heard anything like it before. A real raspy buzz. Sounds like my voice.
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Jun 1, 2017 19:27:52 GMT -6
Post by viciousbliss on Jun 1, 2017 19:27:52 GMT -6
Without the funds to buy this now, I tried experimenting to see what else could be done. First, I tried that Overload EQ84 just to see if it could clear out some of the same stuff. My usb stick with my bx_console license wasn't loaded, so I just went on without it. I thought stuff sounded a bit better with just EQ84. Then I put the usb stick back in and tried to match EQ84 with Bx_console. Turned off all the analog noise and set the channels to digital mode, used channel 1 mostly. To my surprise this yielded a much better result than using soothe in conjunction with bx_console in analog mode. The bx eq is much smoother than the EQ84 too and kinda does the same thing since they're both Neve models. I may pick up Soothe in the future, but I don't find it necessary now. Seems like it was mainly useful as an attempt to offset the things I didn't like from the tolerance modeling in bx. There were things I liked too, but it's not like the manual says what variables change on each channel so one knows what to look for. Still got a Soothe trial for a few more days so I may experiment more. I've tried quite a few presets and manual settings.
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Post by M57 on Mar 3, 2019 14:50:32 GMT -6
Just got around to updating my 1.0.3 version to 1.3.0 because I had a vocal track I needed to save. I don't think it's any less of a CPU hog, but damn does it do the job efficiently, intuitively and easily. I just wanted to bump the shout-out.
The larger display options makes tweaking much easier, and it now has a couple dozen presets. I started with one of them and found it very convenient. It's one thing to hear the difference, but the visual feedback of the delta makes you realize how much is going on where you wouldn't expect in order to achieve the goal. I really want to only use this plug-in for emergencies only, but it's so scary good at what it does, it'll be tempting to not pull it out for other duties.
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