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Post by mrholmes on Nov 20, 2016 10:21:24 GMT -6
Had a big AB session on LV today and I must say the Slate Blue Stripe is, compared to the UAD one, somewhat crazy.
The UAD has a smooth release and very nice mid range.
The Slate is a bit nervous, feels unnatural with its attack and release times.
The UAD is like a constant bow, mellows out the LV.
The Slate seems is best described with stairway-compression, no bow, very hectic.
A lot of the slate plug ins are great.
But the 1176 are a true disappointment to me.
I ask myself why slate does some great plug ins and than comes along with something like this...?
Why not having all plug ins in the same quality range?
Or may I am crazy?
Its just the way I hear it - level matched AB.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 20, 2016 12:59:51 GMT -6
I find the UAD plugins to be superior compression and sound wise to other offers, however they are the most recent and updated code in my plugin library. I have not tested the new Slate blue stripe, however it's hard to get a real evaluation of his SW due to the cultism following of his customers without testing the products your self. Literally everything he releases is God's gift to SW haha  . I think his Free Monster all buttons in plug is nice, and I think the reverb sounds really good and offers a lot of variety, but the workflow is odd and borderline non efficient. I haven't messed with the new delay yet! I want to see a Softube modeled blue stripe and a balls to the wall la3a ( mk2 from UA would be great since they stopped making the reissue HW ) The way they have been emulating the Chandler gear is another step forward for us plugin users who cannot afford the real HW, a $5,000 dollar limiter is not in most practical budgets. |
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 20, 2016 14:45:06 GMT -6
I just ask myself why VCB and VCC and some others are great ones and the most loved one is not on top of the line...
Maybe Slate will update them one day.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 20, 2016 15:03:51 GMT -6
Are you running the original ua 1176 or the mkii ?
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 20, 2016 15:08:22 GMT -6
Are you running the original ua 1176 or the mkii ? mkii |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 15:10:11 GMT -6
never understood what was wrong with the 1175.....
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 20, 2016 16:43:35 GMT -6
never understood what was wrong with the 1175..... Nothing, we just missed the artifacts of the real unit. I must admit, today I like both the HW and the UAD interprtation... |
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Post by guitfiddler on Nov 20, 2016 20:11:46 GMT -6
I just ask myself why VCB and VCC and some others are great ones and the most loved one is not on top of the line... Maybe Slate will update them one day. I just ask myself, why plugins? Lol |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 20, 2016 20:22:14 GMT -6
It would be to cool to see a Softube rs124
It would be cool to see a UAD 175b/ 176 plugin.
Plugins are awesome, HW just sounds a bit awesomer for more $$ 😂
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 20:46:33 GMT -6
I really doubt I'd catch much of a difference. I finally did a mix with just the slate stuff today and I really enjoyed the sound of the plugins, my only real hunch would be the Waves SSL sounds a little bit grainy compared to the Slate one. I really doubt anyone exaggerating these kinda differences though. They're very small.
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 20, 2016 20:56:08 GMT -6
I just ask myself why VCB and VCC and some others are great ones and the most loved one is not on top of the line... Maybe Slate will update them one day. I just ask myself, why plugins? Lol Because I mix hybrid...and there are also good sounding plug ins... may I ask back.... why not if it sounds right.... |
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 20, 2016 21:02:07 GMT -6
I really doubt I'd catch much of a difference. I finally did a mix with just the slate stuff today and I really enjoyed the sound of the plugins, my only real hunch would be the Waves SSL sounds a little bit grainy compared to the Slate one. I really doubt anyone exaggerating these kinda differences though. They're very small. I just can tell you that there was a diffrence but you are right .... there is also a use for the slate ones. Slate could do his own interprtation of the LA2A ... But who cares with the rack and all the plugs I have options over options.... Compression is a never ending story and I love it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 21:09:04 GMT -6
I really doubt I'd catch much of a difference. I finally did a mix with just the slate stuff today and I really enjoyed the sound of the plugins, my only real hunch would be the Waves SSL sounds a little bit grainy compared to the Slate one. I really doubt anyone exaggerating these kinda differences though. They're very small. I just can tell you that there was a diffrence but you are right .... there is also a use for the slate ones. Slate could do his own interprtation of the LA2A ... But who cares with the rack and all the plugs I have options over options.... Compression is a never ending story and I love it. I haven't tried the blue one out on vocals, I had a Stam 2a a while back but I sold that as I like the Waves plugin a lot. I'm unfamiliar with anything UAD but I'd check it out against the Waves in a bit and report back but I really doubt I'm gonna hear much difference. The only thing that irks me a bit about the Slate one is that I have to load a separate module for all buttons in but considering how much I use that it's not a deal breaker. Very happy with the slate stuff. Would love to see and interface and DAW from that company one day. |
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 20, 2016 21:27:50 GMT -6
I just can tell you that there was a diffrence but you are right .... there is also a use for the slate ones. Slate could do his own interprtation of the LA2A ... But who cares with the rack and all the plugs I have options over options.... Compression is a never ending story and I love it. I haven't tried the blue one out on vocals, I had a Stam 2a a while back but I sold that as I like the Waves plugin a lot. I'm unfamiliar with anything UAD but I'd check it out against the Waves in a bit and report back but I really doubt I'm gonna hear much difference. The only thing that irks me a bit about the Slate one is that I have to load a separate module for all buttons in but considering how much I use that it's not a deal breaker. Very happy with the slate stuff. Would love to see and interface and DAW from that company one day. Mh yes the workflow with the vmr is not always funny, but I think its a good idea which should be optimized. I miss on top of the window an input and output meetring. The idea itself is brilliant because it cleans up the mixer window and mixing is faster becaue I only have to click one time to make several changes. |
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Post by guitfiddler on Nov 21, 2016 4:53:50 GMT -6
I just ask myself, why plugins? Lol Because I mix hybrid...and there are also good sounding plug ins... may I ask back.... why not if it sounds right.... I always thought that when I put on a plug or two it didn't enhance the track, but the track got cloudy and smaller, and more 2d. Maybe it was my Apollo interface. I am going to try going satellite thunderbolt and see if that changes things. |
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 21, 2016 7:50:49 GMT -6
Because I mix hybrid...and there are also good sounding plug ins... may I ask back.... why not if it sounds right.... I always thought that when I put on a plug or two it didn't enhance the track, but the track got cloudy and smaller, and more 2d. Maybe it was my Apollo interface. I am going to try going satellite thunderbolt and see if that changes things. To my ears there are good and bad plug ins as well as good and bad hardware. But maybe I am just getting old. If I level match the UAD plug in versus my WA 76 there is a difference but its 50/50 which one is used. Yesterday the UAD blue stripe won over the WA on a LV just because the UAD was more three dimensional. I think the whole SW HW debate gets 50/50 ... For myself I have to correct my opinion since VCC2. Software can sound good - three dimensional. Its a matter of will and skills. |
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Post by guitfiddler on Nov 22, 2016 18:27:29 GMT -6
I always thought that when I put on a plug or two it didn't enhance the track, but the track got cloudy and smaller, and more 2d. Maybe it was my Apollo interface. I am going to try going satellite thunderbolt and see if that changes things. To my ears there are good and bad plug ins as well as good and bad hardware. But maybe I am just getting old. If I level match the UAD plug in versus my WA 76 there is a difference but its 50/50 which one is used. Yesterday the UAD blue stripe won over the WA on a LV just because the UAD was more three dimensional. I think the whole SW HW debate gets 50/50 ... For myself I have to correct my opinion since VCC2. Software can sound good - three dimensional. Its a matter of will and skills. When I commit with good front-end I am so much happier than any plugin I could use. I really want plugins to be more than they are, we aren't there yet. The those pretty little graphics makes you want them to sound better! |
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Post by mrholmes on Nov 22, 2016 20:50:31 GMT -6
To my ears there are good and bad plug ins as well as good and bad hardware. But maybe I am just getting old. If I level match the UAD plug in versus my WA 76 there is a difference but its 50/50 which one is used. Yesterday the UAD blue stripe won over the WA on a LV just because the UAD was more three dimensional. I think the whole SW HW debate gets 50/50 ... For myself I have to correct my opinion since VCC2. Software can sound good - three dimensional. Its a matter of will and skills. When I commit with good front-end I am so much happier than any plugin I could use. I really want plugins to be more than they are, we aren't there yet. The those pretty little graphics makes you want them to sound better! I don't know if a 1073 a few Neumanns and some tube or FET compression is a bad front-end. I was very happy with it the last 10 years. All I say is that some of the slate plugs are helpful. |
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Post by johneppstein on Nov 22, 2016 21:17:30 GMT -6
To my ears there are good and bad plug ins as well as good and bad hardware. But maybe I am just getting old. If I level match the UAD plug in versus my WA 76 there is a difference but its 50/50 which one is used. Yesterday the UAD blue stripe won over the WA on a LV just because the UAD was more three dimensional. I think the whole SW HW debate gets 50/50 ... For myself I have to correct my opinion since VCC2. Software can sound good - three dimensional. Its a matter of will and skills. When I commit with good front-end I am so much happier than any plugin I could use. I really want plugins to be more than they are, we aren't there yet. The those pretty little graphics makes you want them to sound better! You're missing the point, which is how do either or both stand up to the original UREI hardware. Else you're playing darts without a dartboard. |
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. I think his Free Monster all buttons in plug is nice, and I think the reverb sounds really good and offers a lot of variety, but the workflow is odd and borderline non efficient. I haven't messed with the new delay yet! 
