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Post by jjinvegas on Nov 18, 2016 2:05:28 GMT -6
Currently I am using the Presonus 1818 V SL with M Audio 2626 lightpiped in for 16 channels. But really only 12, as both units have two channels of instrument oriented line in. I have a console, so I am not in need of anything beyond a +4 line level input. The units I have work all right, but both of them have far too much circuitry before ADC, what with the line level sharing the pre-amp. I also have no need for any software mixer for monitor mixes. I am PC based and do like the convenience of USB hook-up. As my current audio computer is small form factor, there is only a single slot left. 32 bit version of Reaper, don't really even feel any need for 96k sampling rate. I actually prefer to buy used, and was maybe hoping someone could point me to some units that I have no experience with that would fit with what I have and offer improved performance. MOTU? Avid/M audio 192?
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 18, 2016 2:47:47 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 7:53:08 GMT -6
The MOTU AVB product line has several different multichannel units that are really worth looking into. Great price/performance ratio.
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Post by kilroyrock on Nov 18, 2016 8:35:59 GMT -6
MOTU 16A - 16 I/o + 16 adat I/o. all power no shower. unless you want spdif. Then get one of the other ones. MOTU's current line is awesome. If it was as cheap as the clarett pre8x, I'd get it.
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Post by svart on Nov 18, 2016 14:57:14 GMT -6
SSL Alphalink. You can buy them used from time to time, but you'll also need the DSP card as well.
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Post by terryrocks on Nov 18, 2016 23:02:38 GMT -6
I have a motu 16a. Works well for me
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Post by jjinvegas on Nov 19, 2016 2:55:18 GMT -6
Good suggestions all. When I was younger and possibly crazier, and had real estate and machines and payments that were so much more regular than sales I tried to live by a simple rule of thumb. Don't buy any gear that didn't bring in additional customers. I do look at that Lynx unit with lust and longing, but at ten times the investment I have in my current conversion it certainly violates my old rule. Almost every other link in the recording chain can be found in places where distressed and ready sellers sometimes lose patience and give their things away for peanuts. This piece of kit is almost completely in the purview of professional studios, so I guess patience has to be exercised. It is sort of frustrating to compete with Garageband on a cellphone, I know I have a unique skillset but not as unique as it once was......smile.....
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Post by johneppstein on Nov 19, 2016 14:27:15 GMT -6
Looking at the 24AI, I don't think it would work for him if he's mixing on a console. It has 24 analog in but not out.
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Post by jjinvegas on Nov 19, 2016 17:40:41 GMT -6
The console is one big mic pre, ITB after that. I guess what I was hoping to find was a legacy product that I might get at a bargain that was basically a 16 channel I/O with line level inputs that had minimal circuitry and solid conversion. I am a cheapskate, I pull the trigger if something is really useful and cheap. And I am spoiled living in crazyland, also known as Las Vegas. You would not believe some of the things I have found in thrift stores and pawnshops. Like an EV RE-15, 14 bucks. Alesis 12 channel mixer, 2.99, almost new Audio Technica Artist Elite 3000 for 75 clams. The Presonus VSL 1818 and M-audio 2626 were both like brand new, 200 and 100 bucks respectively. Between drugs and gambling some items you wouldn't expect show up and after two months they just want it gone, they gave peanuts, they sell for cashews.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 4:03:34 GMT -6
Speaking of conversion, right now it does not pay off to buy legacy products. The newest generations of converters like the MOTU AVBs offer very high performance value/price. They rival or beat the better/best legacy converters, that might still be pricier used... + you get the warranty, they use more future proof computer interface standards, many don't even need proprietary drivers etc.etc. IMO digital technology is better bought cheaper and new, it becomes obsolete much faster than analogue technology and is much less servicable. YMMV....
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 20, 2016 11:18:03 GMT -6
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/16AThis has both analog I/ o and not just input only like the 24i. This is 16 Ad/da plus 16 I/o of Adat as well for combo of 32 x 32 simultaneously. This was thenunit inwas thinking of but forgot the model #.
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