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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 2, 2016 14:50:25 GMT -6
Gannon from UA on ua forum has stated:
"And yes, it includes Console 2.0 for single-unit FireWire Apollo systems on both Mac and Windows!
-GK
Gannon Kashiwa"
I have seen him state elsewhere that multi unit config will added at a later date.
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Post by guitfiddler on Nov 2, 2016 18:29:45 GMT -6
I couldn't wait any longer....SOLD!
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 2, 2016 19:01:46 GMT -6
When its time to move on, its time to move on!
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Post by guitfiddler on Nov 2, 2016 19:08:15 GMT -6
When its time to move on, its time to move on! Yes, it is time to move on... |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 2, 2016 19:45:16 GMT -6
Gannon from UA on ua forum has stated: "And yes, it includes Console 2.0 for single-unit FireWire Apollo systems on both Mac and Windows! -GK Gannon Kashiwa" I have seen him state elsewhere that multi unit config will added at a later date. I told you it is not full featured  single unit only not multiple like all the other users whom paid the exact same I did... oh wait that's right most had to pay for the stupid ass add on card which was $500 extra! So where are the wonderful surprises for FW? I asked Gannon and he completely skipped my quote and question in the thread on the purple site and answered everyone else who was stroking his wood I mean guitar... A later date try 2000 never, it's been almost 2 years at this point since Console 3 was "Released " for TB Apollo's... not started on released, full functioning... |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 2, 2016 20:56:34 GMT -6
I don't know what to say to you as your comments are so filled with vitriol.
Here are console 2's original list of 28 features, all of which FW users will apparently have tomorrow, except for multiple units functionality, which would only matter to those who have multiple units, which is probably very few.
64 Bit Retina application in with new UI
Channel Strip Window
Channel Strip Presets
Drag and drop plug-ins
UAD Monitor/Record per channel
Plug-in categories
ALT monitoring with Trim (2 ALT Speakers)
DIM control with trim
Dynamic application resizing
Undo for plug-in and preset parameters
Plug-in audition assign
Plug-in presets audition improvement
Mulitple Appolos in a single session
Flex Driver with routing and Core Audio renaming
Open offline Apollo sessions from Apollo/16/Twin
Meterbridge and navigation improvements
Show/Hide any input or entire Apollo devices
Show/Hide any plug-in in the console
Show/Hide AUX channels
Inputs sub-view for better Unison control
Insert sub-view
Sends sub-view
plug-in macros for Copy/Paste/Remove/Power
Tap Tempo for UAD plug-ins and MIDI supported
Info section for Clock/Sample Rate and DSP
4 General purpose CUE buses for Apollo
Headphone Matrix
Fast channel rename with key commands
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 2, 2016 23:11:13 GMT -6
I don't know what to say to you as your comments are so filled with vitriol. Here are console 2's original list of 28 features, all of which FW users will apparently have tomorrow, except for multiple units functionality, which would only matter to those who have multiple units, which is probably very few. 64 Bit Retina application in with new UI Channel Strip Window Channel Strip Presets Drag and drop plug-ins UAD Monitor/Record per channel Plug-in categories ALT monitoring with Trim (2 ALT Speakers) DIM control with trim Dynamic application resizing Undo for plug-in and preset parameters Plug-in audition assign Plug-in presets audition improvement Mulitple Appolos in a single session Flex Driver with routing and Core Audio renaming Open offline Apollo sessions from Apollo/16/Twin Meterbridge and navigation improvements Show/Hide any input or entire Apollo devices Show/Hide any plug-in in the console Show/Hide AUX channels Inputs sub-view for better Unison control Insert sub-view Sends sub-view plug-in macros for Copy/Paste/Remove/Power Tap Tempo for UAD plug-ins and MIDI supported Info section for Clock/Sample Rate and DSP 4 General purpose CUE buses for Apollo Headphone Matrix Fast channel rename with key commands In no way am I directing my experience towards you and I apologize if you feel like I am talking directly to you , I am not Vitriol... no this is my real world experience... you can praise UAD, that is fine and we can agree to disagree... If I remember correctly, you are the UAD spokesperson for RGO so please don't take offense to my experience or my comments, however UAD has shown where their priority lies... Many other companies have no problem releasing plugins that work on past OS X like 10.6, 10.7, companies like my buddy Slate, NI, Softube, TB Pro Audio, Klanghelm, Waves and the list goes on... Now if I want to spend my money with UAD on any plug newer than march 2014, I have to forgo my stable setup, and update OS X ( and other SW )... Do you not see an issue with that? I'm sorry UAD think it's reasonable to void a stable system just to finaly receive a console 2 update, when their TB/ BF users have had functionality over 3-4 different OS X... Maybe you can answer this question for me.... How does the free satellite with purchase of BF work? Full run down please |
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Post by ragan on Nov 2, 2016 23:32:10 GMT -6
How does the free satellite with purchase of BF work? Full run down please You buy a BF Apollo and they give you a Satellite. It's that simple. |
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Post by ragan on Nov 2, 2016 23:33:04 GMT -6
Sometimes it takes awhile to get there though (the Satellite). Mine took forever but because of the wait they made it an Octo instead of a Quad. I never opened it. Sold it here on RGO.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 3, 2016 2:29:40 GMT -6
Sometimes it takes awhile to get there though (the Satellite). Mine took forever but because of the wait they made it an Octo instead of a Quad. I never opened it. Sold it here on RGO. That's kinda what I was asking and how much does the the quad satellite offset the purchase ? Wow they gave you a satellite octo that's like $1400 in stores right maybe my quad can get delayed and the UA gods can bless me with a BF without breaking the bank. IDK if anyone buys SF though and I keep seeing more ppl rag on the SF conversion lol... |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 3, 2016 5:33:23 GMT -6
No probs but I have no affiliation with UA I just use an apollo. I don't undersand what you mean about plug in not working with old os's as I think it is the opposite as new plugs ins are released they are compatible with current os's. Other than the some old uad-1 plugs (nigel) not working ( the whole system was mothballed and ua paid people money to transition to uad-2 stuff) all one has to do is use the current authorization to demo and or to use UA's newest plug ins. Sorry if I seem jaundiced but there are many people who complain about their fw apollo's but what they typically don't say is that it works just as it was advertised to and the fw apollo always used console 1. I don't know all the programming intricacies but apparently getting this ported over to fw was a lot more challenging that ua realized. Personally, I am a pragmatist I sold my fw apollo and get a tbolt apollo and a tbolt computer; works perfectly, so I understand that is not a solution that everyone wants to use but it is always an option. Technology advances and if you want to use older equipment/os's/software there is going to be a downside and that is that you will probably not be able to use all new features. When I sold my imac, I decided to probably upgrade computers and maybe interfaces roughly every 5 years to just not get caught in that trap again. The current deal with the satellite is as Ragan described, but they delay sending the sat for roughly 6-8 weeks as some people return their apollo's but try to keep the satellite. So UA waits to ship the sat until after the apollo return date. Ragan's took longer cus ua ran out of quad satellites and even though the offer was stated as limited to available stock ,they manufactured more satellites and as I understand it for those who waited longest they quietly upgraded them to octo satellites, which many sold thereby reducing the cost of their apollo purchase by half. I bought my apollo a little earlier than Ragan and did not qualify for the satellite program: dems da breaks One thing about gs and the ua forum , you sure can't please everyone . On ua forum, it almost gets amusing as you can typically tell very quickly the more irate ranters as they blow on to the forum with their issue, that they often know little about, dump all over ua and typically misrepresent the situation to be manipulative, contribute nothing to the forum and eventually disappear: tiresome. The last satellite deal was particularly revealing as you could show some of these people the limitation language and they would argue that it didn't apply: talk about a sense of entitlement. I was amazed at Gannon's professionalism. I am not talking about our pal Ragan by the way he and I are old gs apollo first look thread mates like Martin , Herbie and cat 5; going on about 5 years ! |
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Post by ragan on Nov 3, 2016 8:42:58 GMT -6
No probs but I have no affiliation with UA I just use an apollo. I don't undersand what you mean about plug in not working with old os's as I think it is the opposite as new plugs ins are released they are compatible with current os's. Other than the some old uad-1 plugs (nigel) not working ( the whole system was mothballed and ua paid people money to transition to uad-2 stuff) all one has to do is use the current authorization to demo and or to use UA's newest plug ins. Sorry if I seem jaundiced but there are many people who complain about their fw apollo's but what they typically don't say is that it works just as it was advertised to and the fw apollo always used console 1. I don't know all the programming intricacies but apparently getting this ported over to fw was a lot more challenging that ua realized. Personally, I am a pragmatist I sold my fw apollo and get a tbolt apollo and a tbolt computer; works perfectly, so I understand that is not a solution that everyone wants to use but it is always an option. Technology advances and if you want to use older equipment/os's/software there is going to be a downside and that is that you will probably not be able to use all new features. When I sold my imac, I decided to probably upgrade computers and maybe interfaces roughly every 5 years to just not get caught in that trap again. The current deal with the satellite is as Ragan described, but they delay sending the sat for roughly 6-8 weeks as some people return their apollo's but try to keep the satellite. So UA waits to ship the sat until after the apollo return date. Ragan's took longer cus ua ran out of quad satellites and even though the offer was stated as limited to available stock ,they manufactured more satellites and as I understand it for those who waited longest they quietly upgraded them to octo satellites, which many sold thereby reducing the cost of their apollo purchase by half. I bought my apollo a little earlier than Ragan and did not qualify for the satellite program: dems da breaks One thing about gs and the ua forum , you sure can't please everyone . On ua forum, it almost gets amusing as you can typically tell very quickly the more irate ranters as they blow on to the forum with their issue, that they often know little about, dump all over ua and typically misrepresent the situation to be manipulative, contribute nothing to the forum and eventually disappear: tiresome. The last satellite deal was particularly revealing as you could show some of these people the limitation language and they would argue that it didn't apply: talk about a sense of entitlement. I was amazed at Gannon's professionalism. I am not talking about our pal Ragan by the way he and I are old gs apollo first look thread mates like Martin , Herbie and cat 5; going on about 5 years ! Perfectly summed up. And yeah, that free Octo worked out beautifully. I got GC to match the Pro Audio Star price (which you turned me onto I believe) which is always the lowest. I've bought a few things from them now. So my BF Apollo Quad was like $2200 all in. Sold my SF and the free Octo and that made the BF Apollo a free upgrade. Cannot complain about that. |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 3, 2016 11:31:55 GMT -6
kcatthedogI am Lion 10.7 OSX, each new plugin is only compatible 2-3 OS X back.. the last UAD installer that was approved for Lion was UAD 7.4 ( 03/ 2014 ) and if you try to install any UAD SW after that it won't install due to OS X compatibility... Theninfo below is from UAD website. Speaking of which, the new mobile site is hard to navigate and find this info. It used to be a few clicks; it took me 20 minutes and the site kept redirecting me... UAD v7.4 Compatible Operating Systems Mac OS X 10.7 Lion Mac OS X 10.8.5 Mountain Lion Windows 7 64bit New UAD-2 Plug-Ins from Universal Audio Fairchild Tube Limiter Collection New UAD-2 Plug-In from Direct Development Partner Maag EQ4 by Brainworx UAD v8.7 Compatible Operating Systems Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks Mac OS X 10.10 Yosemite Mac OS X 10.11 El Capitan Windows 7 64bit Windows 8.1 64bit Windows 10 64bit New UAD-2 Plug-Ins from Universal Audio Manley® VOXBOX Channel Strip Brigade Chorus Pedal Galaxy Tape Echo Studio D Chorus New UAD-2 Plug-In from Direct Development Partner Ampeg® B-15N Bass Amplifier by Brainworx And with Sierra now out and compatible kiss Mavericks goodbye with UAD 8.8/ 8.9 ...
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 3, 2016 11:36:53 GMT -6
Ya I understand the frustration but UA doesn't make its new plugs completely backwards compatible to all apple OS's.
I thought snow leopard and ML were great but things move on, can you not got to sierra, its working fine here on my 2012 mbp.
the jury is still out on the new site: plusses and minuses
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 3, 2016 11:44:18 GMT -6
Ya I understand the frustration but UA doesn't make its new plugs completely backwards compatible to all apple OS's. I thought snow leopard and ML were great but things move on, can you not got to sierra, its working fine here on my 2012 mbp. the jury is still out on the new site: plusses and minuses I have a completely stable system Runs amazing for 90% of tasks aside from production where I freeze VI's. I have not had time to put El cap through its paces or stress test it to completely upgrade my entire setup! I have El cap partitioned on an HD and have messed around in it but nothing serious enough to know and now we are on Sierra less than a year later it feels like.. I swear i just D/L El Cap a few months ago I purchased a couple plugs and learned the hard way regarding OS X compatibility and UAD plugins... That's what made me partition a drive for EL cap, I could not get a refund on my plugs and I don't think you can resale UAD plugs, can you ? |
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single unit only not multiple like all the other users whom paid the exact same I did... oh wait that's right most had to pay for the stupid ass add on card which was $500 extra! So where are the wonderful surprises for FW? I asked Gannon and he completely skipped my quote and question in the thread on the purple site and answered everyone else who was stroking his wood I mean guitar... 