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Post by swurveman on Oct 31, 2016 10:42:04 GMT -6
I got my friends loaner Tascam US-2400 24 fader control surface up and running and recognized (somewhat) by both Cubase 8 Pro and Pro Tools 11. However, there are some problems that may or may not be fixable. So, I thought I'd ask if anybody has the unit working successfully. I set up Cubase based on this link and Pro Tools based on the manual. In Cubase 8 on the channels I got select, solo, mute and pan to work on the first 24 channels, but could not bank up to the next 24. When I pushed the Aux buttons on the 2400, for Aux 1 the rotary knob controlled the channel output, not the send to the FX channel 1. None of the other Aux channel buttons would light up except #6 and I couldn't discern that the rotary knobs were doing anything in conjunction with this "aux". . In Pro Tools 11 the unit began to work on the channel level- select solo,mute, aux send 1+2.- but I couldn't get it go to the next bank either. The rotary controllers didn't send to Aux 3-6. Then, the 2400 just stopped responding. When I saved the project and exited Pro Tools I got the message "Pro Tools is not Responding"and it won't shut down. So, I either pushed a button Pro Tools didn't like, or PT doesn't like it for long. If anybody has any thought it would be much appreciated! |
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Post by keymod on Oct 31, 2016 13:15:24 GMT -6
That thing is such a cool unit I hope you get it up and running properly. Tascam should never have stopped production but they should have updated and upgraded. It really could have evolved into something great.
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Post by kilroyrock on Nov 1, 2016 6:50:39 GMT -6
They stopped production when Europe put in that lead rule, and instead of re-making it, they just stopped it completely.
I had one, and loved the ease of the fader 24 faders being in front of you. It worked well on HUI back in PT9 when I had it, but I only used it for pan and volume. I never really understood how to get everything else going. What's cool is you can hit a set of buttons, and the lights around the pan knobs turn into signal level meters. I could never get the usb signal level meters program to work correctly.
I sold it because I was getting out of a bad studio relationship and sold off everything. I bought it for 450 at the time, sold it for 780, craigslist killah style. I'm pretty sure that paid for Christmas.
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Post by swurveman on Nov 2, 2016 8:08:53 GMT -6
Thanks keymod and kilroyrock. I found out that The HUI and Mackie Control protocols do not transmit bank indicator information,
so the US-2400 bank indicators are only operational in Native mode. Since PT and Cubase are HUI and Mackie, that means no banking.
Yeah, it's a shame there's no support and (apparently) no word of mouth use either. It had a lot of potentially nice features. The guy I bought my desk from had the US-2400 built in. So, it would be cool to even get the faders working. I'm still holding out hope for Cubase. It's not gonna work with PT 11.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 9:17:32 GMT -6
The problem with Mackie Control/Logic Control/HUI *protocols* is that they can not send bank indicators.
This is a limitation of these protocols, so *no* control surface based on these protocols gets bank indicator from any DAW using these protocols.
This does *not* mean the US-2400 can not bankswitch! It CAN.
Last time i used it in Sonar, it worked just as described in the manual.
This means, it *was* able to switch banks, although i only used up to 48.
But i also got confirmation of others, that it works perfectly up to 192 channels. At least using Mackie Protocol. If you have problems to get it working in your DAW, you can always try to use one of the other Mackie modes of the US-2400.
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Post by kilroyrock on Nov 2, 2016 13:31:49 GMT -6
Yeah, I do remember being able to bank up and down 8 without a problem?
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Post by kilroyrock on Nov 2, 2016 13:32:22 GMT -6
Again, that was PT9. Although my Frontier Tranzport runs of HUI and still works great.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 12:05:09 GMT -6
Yeah, i remember the US-2400 bankswitching, used it last time in Mixbus, don't know if it was the "Sonar Mode" or "Logic Mode", but it definitely worked in Mixbus and several versions of Sonar as Mackie MCU emulation. (Tested in all since version 8 and following.)
I tested all functionality, because i still have a to-do project for programming a layer between the US-2400 driver and the DAW, so that you can use the channel encoders as a horizontal channel strip for the actual channel, to control EQ, AUXs, dynamics. Did this once for Sonar before the X1-3 and platinum versions. I am really sure, that the bank switch works as soon as the US2400 is set up correctly, for sure in the Mackie/Logic modes.
Setup can be a bit tricky, but it works if you do it in the sequence described in the Tascam papers.
Sorry, no experience in Protools with it. So i can NOT say anything about the quality or completeness of the HUI implementation, never checked this out.
But works as described in the manual as a Mackie with 2 Extenders once you chose the right DAW flavour of implementation. One of them always worked with all i tried it on.
Are you sure to have the last update to the firmware installed? This one brought class compliance for USB Midi, so it works in future OSes.
Also tested and it works under Linux exactly like described in the manual.
The ONLY false information contained in the US2400 manual is the port numbers that i see in Windows. But that is not really an issue, does not compromise functionality.
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