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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 28, 2013 18:24:56 GMT -6
They have all plugs on sale for $99 each for Black Friday. I currently have the Maag, Vertigo, and stereo maker. Anyone here recommend others?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 28, 2013 21:05:06 GMT -6
Just to add, Belmont has them even cheaper and I expect audio deluxe and the others do too. This was not the case last year, so even better deals now!
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Post by popmann on Nov 29, 2013 22:34:21 GMT -6
Transient Designer. Overheads to reduce sustain....ambient samples to reduce attack and make them into "sample reverb" for the real kit...sometimes on the hat if it's needed to be really loud to simply be very "attacky"...a well recorded tom it can reduce the sustain and make one not need high EQ--just cut some mids and pull down it's sustain a tad with TD.
The key, IME, has been reducing things with it....reduce the sustain....reduce the attack...too many people try to boost the attack or boost the sustain, which to me always sounds like bad compression. And if you think about it--reduce sustain DOES increase the attack relatively, you know? But, it doesn't do that same thing as boosting the attack on the particular DSP.
YMMV.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 30, 2013 23:54:00 GMT -6
I grabbed the transient designer and museq.
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Post by popmann on Dec 1, 2013 17:02:54 GMT -6
Never tried the EQ.
What's the claim to fame? I watched a youtube...sounded nice enough, terrible UI (IMO)...but, that's mostly meaningless in a vacuum--you know, unless they do the same curve with some other digital EQ.
I keep trying to find some single EQ plug that will do what I need everywhere...but, it just doesn't happen. Even when there's something that looks so promising like the Waves HEQ--with the per band switchable colors...nope...I have a handful I use for everything. It would be nice to have a single EQ I felt did all a I needed--put it into the template on every channel disabled and not swap them out.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 1, 2013 17:33:54 GMT -6
The high shelf is supposed to be nice. Goes to 35k I think. I grabbed this one without a demo. For $75 I figure that if it doesn't work for me, I can sell it and get my money back.
The fact that the clariphonic doesn't do 64 bit helped convince me of this one.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 1, 2013 18:33:30 GMT -6
The high shelf is supposed to be nice. Goes to 35k I think. I grabbed this one without a demo. For $75 I figure that if it doesn't work for me, I can sell it and get my money back. The fact that the clariphonic doesn't do 64 bit helped convince me of this one. The switches on the MuseQ seem really useful too. Switch in a narrow Q in boost mode, boost to the max and find the offensive freq. Then switch the switch to cut, flip to wide q, and dial back in some of the freq. |
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Post by watchtower on Dec 2, 2013 13:07:23 GMT -6
FYI, this sale was extended through December. I have Maag and Vertigo already. I might snag stereomaker. That would be really useful when I get sent mono overheads (yes, I get sent mono overheads sometimes).
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Post by popmann on Dec 2, 2013 15:21:13 GMT -6
Why on earth would you want to stereo'ize mono overheads?
That said...All those "stereo enhancer" things are just phase manipulation...just get the freeware BetaBugs Phasebug that allows for 360deg continuous phase manipulation. You can use it for phase correction that's needed as well. I'm SO surprised that DAWs don't come with this kind of thing built in. Seems like a simple plug--keep in mind, it's not like IBP which has a frequency component and is more for creative cancellation in a way...it just changes the full signal phase.
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Post by watchtower on Dec 2, 2013 16:52:31 GMT -6
Mono overheads don't sound good to me, at least in the genre I'm working on. They're only using a single overhead mic out of lack of care/equipment/skill. Mixes sound very narrow if I don't stereoize it.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 2, 2013 17:48:58 GMT -6
Mono overheads don't sound good to me, at least in the genre I'm working on. They're only using a single overhead mic out of lack of care/equipment/skill. Mixes sound very narrow if I don't stereoize it. It's pretty cool to add some size to guitars too. I think I got it for $60 or something in their advent sale last year. It's a cool piece to have in the toolkit to get some quick results. |
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Post by popmann on Dec 4, 2013 0:14:35 GMT -6
Ok...so, I got the demo. This is an odd EQ. It's like super transparent. To the point of almost being ineffective. Someone once told me a good EQ is one that you can hear a 1db cut or boost clearly and that may be all you need...this one seems crazy--not unlike Linear Phase EQs--where you can boost and cut all day and it it has to get drastic before you hear it.
So far...like it on the two in M/S mode (where I always set up an elliptical)...I might get it for that since the WavesLP won't go M/S. I've been using the IK Pultec...but, at least on this first mix I pulled up, I like it a bit better. However, on the actual instruments--with the "mix" version, I haven't been able to better my "trio" of faves. Is there something fundamentally different about the mix version? I'll have to read on that...maybe it's just too transparent for me. It doesn't sound BAD, mind you--the 1081 and Pultec just sound better in their given applications here.
However, the "master" version on the two is nice. It might be what FabFilter wasn't for my M/S elliptical needs. It IS interesting. I wonder if the master version will sound different on individual tracks? Will try that next sesh.
One thing I hear between it and the 1081, though--the 1081 sounds old. This sounds modern. I get why some would prefer that. It's more comparable in sound to the WavesLinear Phase seems like. Clean, modern, tranparent. Not a bit of vibe to it. Kind of the way digital EQ sounds ideally....utterly colorless.
How you liking it?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 4, 2013 5:38:10 GMT -6
I haven't installed yet. Was waiting on my license, but it finally came through last night. Yesterday I installed PT11 and completed the upgrades on most of my plugins. I'll get MuseQ, Transient Designer, and IK stuff installed today and do some testing tonight.
...just waiting on Slate, the Glue, and Valhalla to get to 64 bit land now.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 4, 2013 9:55:41 GMT -6
The musEQ seems to be something I'll need to take time to learn. I already have too much color, between SSL strips, Slates VBC, among others. I wanted a clean EQ, and the musEQ is clean, and like popmann said, it's not so easy to hear, but then it could be how I'm using it. I only gave it a five inure test run and didn't even know what button did what ! When I listened to the mix I ran, and compared it to a previous mix, the difference was huge, so somehow the musEQ is actually powerful, but not so easy to be sure if what your doing translates to the mix. I'll experiment further, but it is a nice change from the SSL. I'm starting to hear SSL as a distortion device and not an EQ.
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Post by popmann on Dec 6, 2013 23:35:00 GMT -6
Huge deal breaker here...the makeup gain being that touchy little "v-screw"...I really have to hover the mouse and turn my focus knob, because there's no way to grab it with the mouse without moving it say 10db on the click...and advanced EQ should just do the gain adjustments for you--so there no way to increase or decrease the volume with the EQ. But, I'm used to doing it myself at this point...but, this little screw--eh, uncoolness of the UI.
I like the sound fine. But, it can't replace the resonant Neve filters on Egtrs...or the Pultec on vox...or the linear Phase HPFs...it is however a nice sounding digital EQ for "other" uses. With a really lousy UI for the make up gain.
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