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Post by indiehouse on Oct 28, 2016 8:28:22 GMT -6
I'm thinking about racking a Focusrite (Audient) 2802 in my Sterling Plan A desk. The Sterling conversion to a Plan D (with the desktop in the middle) is the ideal solution for mixer placement, but it's gonna cost over $1500. I was thinking a cheaper solution would be to rack the 2802 right in front of me. I actually have the .DWG plan files from Audient/Focusrite for the rack ears. They used to sell these, but no longer do. I suppose I could go to a local metal shop, but I thought I'd ask around to see if anyone knows anybody who has experience making rack ears. I guess I could just place the mixer to the side of me, but that's just not as cool...  |
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Post by schmalzy on Oct 28, 2016 9:20:55 GMT -6
I'm thinking about racking a Focusrite (Audient) 2802 in my Sterling Plan A desk. Any machining shop in your town should be able to do it. I'd maybe look around for newer shops that might be looking for work. You could also talk to some of the larger concert production crews/companies in your area, they'll probably have an in with a guy somewhere. Those guys go through more items and have to rig up more special case shit than I could ever imagine having to do in my space. Follow up question from me: How is that 2802? I've been lusting over one for a few years now and, on top of being above my price bracket, I'm curious how long it'll be supported and how well it'll work with Reaper. I look at it and think: that's a big workflow win for me...but I'm not convinced I'm not just a dummy. How is it integrated into your setup? What are you finding that you especially like? Anything you really don't like about it or wish it could do? |
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Post by ericn on Oct 28, 2016 10:19:00 GMT -6
I'm thinking about racking a Focusrite (Audient) 2802 in my Sterling Plan A desk. Any machining shop in your town should be able to do it. I'd maybe look around for newer shops that might be looking for work. You could also talk to some of the larger concert production crews/companies in your area, they'll probably have an in with a guy somewhere. Those guys go through more items and have to rig up more special case shit than I could ever imagine having to do in my space. Follow up question from me: How is that 2802? I've been lusting over one for a few years now and, on top of being above my price bracket, I'm curious how long it'll be supported and how well it'll work with Reaper. I look at it and think: that's a big workflow win for me...but I'm not convinced I'm not just a dummy. How is it integrated into your setup? What are you finding that you especially like? Anything you really don't like about it or wish it could do? Beat me to it ! I would add Send an email to the following to see if something exists Audient, Focusrite and Middle Atlantic. Somebody might have already done the hard work for you. |
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Post by indiehouse on Oct 28, 2016 11:48:37 GMT -6
I'm thinking about racking a Focusrite (Audient) 2802 in my Sterling Plan A desk. Any machining shop in your town should be able to do it. I'd maybe look around for newer shops that might be looking for work. You could also talk to some of the larger concert production crews/companies in your area, they'll probably have an in with a guy somewhere. Those guys go through more items and have to rig up more special case shit than I could ever imagine having to do in my space. Follow up question from me: How is that 2802? I've been lusting over one for a few years now and, on top of being above my price bracket, I'm curious how long it'll be supported and how well it'll work with Reaper. I look at it and think: that's a big workflow win for me...but I'm not convinced I'm not just a dummy. How is it integrated into your setup? What are you finding that you especially like? Anything you really don't like about it or wish it could do? I'll let you know once I get it integrated. I believe these are discontinued now. They were made by Audient, but were picked up by Focusrite in order to use their distribution channels. They just slapped the Focusrite name on the mixer. The features on this thing pack a punch! It's got DAW control, analog automation, summing, 8 class A preamps, an SSL style buss comp, talkback, a pretty feature rich monitor secion, aux sends. I mean, I could go on and on. There's no subgroups, though. I guess you can't have everything. What d0 these list at? $3500? I was actually just looking at maybe getting a DAW controller, but then I stumbled upon this thing. I found a brand new in box for about half off of list price. I can sell my Sebatrons and my Drawmer monitor controller and about break even. Granted, the pre's on this probably aren't the money shots, but I've got others for that. As long as their solid enough for things like Drum Room, Scratches, etc, then I'm sold. I just would like to find a way to make it fit, ergonomically speaking. |
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Post by indiehouse on Oct 28, 2016 11:51:25 GMT -6
Any machining shop in your town should be able to do it. I'd maybe look around for newer shops that might be looking for work. You could also talk to some of the larger concert production crews/companies in your area, they'll probably have an in with a guy somewhere. Those guys go through more items and have to rig up more special case shit than I could ever imagine having to do in my space. Follow up question from me: How is that 2802? I've been lusting over one for a few years now and, on top of being above my price bracket, I'm curious how long it'll be supported and how well it'll work with Reaper. I look at it and think: that's a big workflow win for me...but I'm not convinced I'm not just a dummy. How is it integrated into your setup? What are you finding that you especially like? Anything you really don't like about it or wish it could do? Beat me to it ! I would add Send an email to the following to see if something exists Audient, Focusrite and Middle Atlantic. Somebody might have already done the hard work for you. I actually found the .DWG plan files for the rack ears from Audients website. I found a few threads and FB posts of other guys looking for rack ears with no success. A reply from Audient pointed them to the plans and said their best bet is to have a metal shop make them. Just thought it might be easier to find someone in the know who makes rack ears, than to try and explain to a local guy who might not have a clue what I'm talking about. |
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Post by ericn on Oct 28, 2016 12:20:30 GMT -6
Beat me to it ! I would add Send an email to the following to see if something exists Audient, Focusrite and Middle Atlantic. Somebody might have already done the hard work for you. I actually found the .DWG plan files for the rack ears from Audients website. I found a few threads and FB posts of other guys looking for rack ears with no success. A reply from Audient pointed them to the plans and said their best bet is to have a metal shop make them. Just thought it might be easier to find someone in the know who makes rack ears, than to try and explain to a local guy who might not have a clue what I'm talking about. Call middle Atlantic reference the threads they might do a short run! I don't think Penn elcom would do a short run! With CAD drawings any machine shop should be able to do it! Give Danderloo a shout if their is demand he might be interested. You |
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Post by indiehouse on Oct 28, 2016 13:33:08 GMT -6
Just found this review from MIX magazine: www.barryrudolph.com/mix/focusritecontrol2802.html It's interesting to read that the reviewer compared the 2802 preamps to his RTZ 9762's (which I have a pair of and consider those to be among my top pre's). "While recording male vocals, I compared one of the 2802's eight mic pre's with my RTZ Professional Audio 9762 dual-combo mic pre. I used my transformer mic-splitter box (It has a Jensen JT-MB-E transformer inside) to route a large-diaphragm condenser mic to both pre's at the same time. I used the 2802's superclean Channel mode preamp output and then ran the RTZ's line out into an adjacent line-input channel on the 2802; in this way, I could match levels and route both signals out the direct outputs to Pro Tools|HD.
It was amazing how close both pre's sounded: quiet, warm and solid, and exactly as I remember the sound of the pre's in the Audient Zen console--fantastic! I would only say that the RTZ had more gain available and was more open-sounding. On the 2802, there is up to 15dB additional gain available using the Channel Trim control if you select the post-fader direct output path. Over the course of the nearly three weeks that I had the Control 2802, its mic pre's performed perfectly for recording all sources." Wow! I'm pretty excited about this thing. Also, it looks like my plan to rack this in my Sterling Plan A is a bust. It looks like it takes 15 rack spaces to mount, and my Plan A has only 12 per side. Now I need a plan B... |
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Post by indiehouse on Oct 28, 2016 19:51:26 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on Oct 28, 2016 22:21:09 GMT -6
OK this is one of the reasons why I always tell people not to buy any of these giant prefab deals and find a local cabinet maker, Things change and if you address that in the build it can be pretty easy to make changes. Even if you don't it will probably be easier to make changes if you go with hard wood!
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