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Post by spock on Oct 30, 2016 19:33:54 GMT -6
spock so is that ram a fair bit faster than what you used to have so you actually have faster short term processing capacity in the same 16 gigs plus faster cpu? I think it will be... |
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Post by javamad on Nov 2, 2016 3:22:37 GMT -6
Some interesting comments on here. I'd definitely not be taking a soldering iron to the Ram. I agree that it's stupid (or cynical) of Apple to have soldered it in the first place. 16Gb of Ram 4 years ago when I bought my current model was quite limited anyway ... but to not have moved on from there, in 4 whole years, makes no sense to me.
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Post by Ward on Nov 2, 2016 8:49:52 GMT -6
Some interesting comments on here. I'd definitely not be taking a soldering iron to the Ram. I agree that it's stupid (or cynical) of Apple to have soldered it in the first place. 16Gb of Ram 4 years ago when I bought my current model was quite limited anyway ... but to not have moved on from there, in 4 whole years, makes no sense to me. A long time ago, most of us came to the understanding that Apple was 50% genius and 50% idiot savant. So, stupid things happen there, and the fixed place RAM, Video cards, stuff soldered on the motherboards were the source of most of these issues. I think things would be different if Jonathan Ives were President and CEO and not Tim the Accountant. |
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Post by ericn on Nov 2, 2016 9:45:05 GMT -6
Some interesting comments on here. I'd definitely not be taking a soldering iron to the Ram. I agree that it's stupid (or cynical) of Apple to have soldered it in the first place. 16Gb of Ram 4 years ago when I bought my current model was quite limited anyway ... but to not have moved on from there, in 4 whole years, makes no sense to me. A long time ago, most of us came to the understanding that Apple was 50% genius and 50% idiot savant. So, stupid things happen there, and the fixed place RAM, Video cards, stuff soldered on the motherboards were the source of most of these issues. I think things would be different if Jonathan Ives were President and CEO and not Tim the Accountant. More and more Apple has taken the "pro" out of their pro products! Every major computer manufacturer has tried to be a consumer electronics company, unfortunately for us Apple has been the one to succeed, but it has given us IPhone, iPod, and iPad! |
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Post by spock on Nov 2, 2016 10:32:34 GMT -6
I don't know... I think Apple stuff is great and continues to be so. I started out with the Titanium 500 and 550 MacBooks and was cutting trailers on them using the first Final Cut Pro; stuff running ahead of movies like Lord of The Rings in 450 of the top grossing theaters in the U.S. at the time, without fail. If I or my little apple machine screwed the pooch, 100's thousand of dollars would've been lost. Over the years, I'm 6 MacBooks/pros in now; Lucky #7 arrives on the 17th, loaded for bear. This doesn't mean I don't have some gripes/annoyances, like no SD card slot now, but I'll get over it and keep working.
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Post by ericn on Nov 2, 2016 11:57:57 GMT -6
I don't know... I think Apple stuff is great and continues to be so. I started out with the Titanium 500 and 550 MacBooks and was cutting trailers on them using the first Final Cut Pro; stuff running ahead of movies like Lord of The Rings in 450 of the top grossing theaters in the U.S. at the time, without fail. If I or my little apple machine screwed the pooch, 100's thousand of dollars would've been lost. Over the years, I'm 6 MacBooks/pros in now; Lucky #7 arrives on the 17th, loaded for bear. This doesn't mean I don't have some gripes/annoyances, like no SD card slot now, but I'll get over it and keep working. Adam I go back to the 9600, the days when Adobe ,Avid & Digii customers were what kept Apple breathing. The trash can was the first sign that Apple no longer cares about pros, the daily evolution of OS and the strange update schedule of pro apps prove that point. In the past their have always been apple machines that were a cut above the rest, now our worst fear of the intel era is reality, Generic Machines. I have been preaching for years that we in the entertainment industry Need to migrate to a more industrial OS, the bloated support everything builds are going to lead to an entire new generation of unplug to play, I don't want to go back there! |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 2, 2016 12:07:01 GMT -6
Mid 2012 June / July MBP
15.5"
2.6ghz quad core intel i7 6MB L3 cache TB up to 3.6GHz
8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAMM
750 GB 5400 RPM HD
Intel HD Graphics 4000
NVIDIA GEForce GT 650M graphics processor with 1GB of GDDR5 memory
Can i put 16 GB of ram ? What size SSD should I fit and what kind?
Someone else mentioned crucial.com? They said they were pricey though... I have a local micro center.. I also have ordered from OWC before with good success... Any ideas/ suggestions? Thanks
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 2, 2016 12:30:15 GMT -6
Mid 2012 June / July MBP 15.5" 2.6ghz quad core intel i7 6MB L3 cache TB up to 3.6GHz 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAMM 750 GB 5400 RPM HD Intel HD Graphics 4000 NVIDIA GEForce GT 650M graphics processor with 1GB of GDDR5 memory Can i put 16 GB of ram ? What size SSD should I fit and what kind? Someone else mentioned crucial.com? They said they were pricey though... I have a local micro center.. I also have ordered from OWC before with good success... Any ideas/ suggestions? Thanks 16GB will fit. 2.5" ssd. Crucial is your best bet for RAM. On the Crucial site, you can pop in your machine into and it'll tell you what you need and the max available. For the SSD, the 850 EVO either on Amazon or Newegg is generally well liked. |
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Post by spock on Nov 2, 2016 18:51:46 GMT -6
I don't know... I think Apple stuff is great and continues to be so. I started out with the Titanium 500 and 550 MacBooks and was cutting trailers on them using the first Final Cut Pro; stuff running ahead of movies like Lord of The Rings in 450 of the top grossing theaters in the U.S. at the time, without fail. If I or my little apple machine screwed the pooch, 100's thousand of dollars would've been lost. Over the years, I'm 6 MacBooks/pros in now; Lucky #7 arrives on the 17th, loaded for bear. This doesn't mean I don't have some gripes/annoyances, like no SD card slot now, but I'll get over it and keep working. Adam I go back to the 9600, the days when Adobe ,Avid & Digii customers were what kept Apple breathing. The trash can was the first sign that Apple no longer cares about pros, the daily evolution of OS and the strange update schedule of pro apps prove that point. In the past their have always been apple machines that were a cut above the rest, now our worst fear of the intel era is reality, Generic Machines. I have been preaching for years that we in the entertainment industry Need to migrate to a more industrial OS, the bloated support everything builds are going to lead to an entire new generation of unplug to play, I don't want to go back there! BeOS...  |
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Post by donr on Nov 2, 2016 18:59:49 GMT -6
Is the trash can a success? Anyone know the sales figures? Who's using it?
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Post by ericn on Nov 2, 2016 19:21:21 GMT -6
Is the trash can a success? Anyone know the sales figures? Who's using it? I don't know how it's selling but I do know there is a huge demand for usedthe last 2 Generations of Cheese graders and the discontinued Mac Mini server! |
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Nov 2, 2016 20:49:26 GMT -6
Mid 2012 June / July MBP 15.5" 2.6ghz quad core intel i7 6MB L3 cache TB up to 3.6GHz 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAMM 750 GB 5400 RPM HD Intel HD Graphics 4000 NVIDIA GEForce GT 650M graphics processor with 1GB of GDDR5 memory Can i put 16 GB of ram ? What size SSD should I fit and what kind? Someone else mentioned crucial.com? They said they were pricey though... I have a local micro center.. I also have ordered from OWC before with good success... Any ideas/ suggestions? Thanks Yes 16GB of ram is the maximum. Crucial Mac ram is what i use. As jcoutu1 mentioned 2.5 size SSD is what you want. I also replaced my CD Drive with a second SSD for extra space. This requires an adapter available through ifixit.com or many other places. |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 2, 2016 22:55:50 GMT -6
Mid 2012 June / July MBP 15.5" 2.6ghz quad core intel i7 6MB L3 cache TB up to 3.6GHz 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAMM 750 GB 5400 RPM HD Intel HD Graphics 4000 NVIDIA GEForce GT 650M graphics processor with 1GB of GDDR5 memory Can i put 16 GB of ram ? What size SSD should I fit and what kind? Someone else mentioned crucial.com? They said they were pricey though... I have a local micro center.. I also have ordered from OWC before with good success... Any ideas/ suggestions? Thanks Yes 16GB of ram is the maximum. Crucial Mac ram is what i use. As jcoutu1 mentioned 2.5 size SSD is what you want. I also replaced my CD Drive with a second SSD for extra space. This requires an adapter available through ifixit.com or many other places. Thank you.. I have been researching different SSD and different ram options... crucial has been getting a lot of good recommendations as well as samsung 850 pro SSD... seems the mercury OWC SSD is older tech and does not read or write as fast as some of the crucial and samsung... cnet has a good article and n the best SSD for 2016 which has a breakdown of each SSD I enjoyed reading... |
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Nov 3, 2016 3:45:52 GMT -6
Yes 16GB of ram is the maximum. Crucial Mac ram is what i use. As jcoutu1 mentioned 2.5 size SSD is what you want. I also replaced my CD Drive with a second SSD for extra space. This requires an adapter available through ifixit.com or many other places. Thank you.. I have been researching different SSD and different ram options... crucial has been getting a lot of good recommendations as well as samsung 850 pro SSD... seems the mercury OWC SSD is older tech and does not read or write as fast as some of the crucial and samsung... cnet has a good article and n the best SSD for 2016 which has a breakdown of each SSD I enjoyed reading... I have 5 SSD hard drives all crucial. I only chosen them over samsung because of the price over here in NZ. Both brands make good drives. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 12:29:06 GMT -6
Try getting a pre 2013 before they soldered the ram in. I think you can drop a pair of 16gb DDR3 Sticks in it and have it run at 32gb.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 10, 2016 13:17:46 GMT -6
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 10, 2016 15:24:27 GMT -6
Try getting a pre 2013 before they soldered the ram in. I think you can drop a pair of 16gb DDR3 Sticks in it and have it run at 32gb. I have a mid 2012 the ram is not soldered in.. ingot a great deal at micro center for $80 out the door for my 16gb crucial ram... the guy there kinda talked me into the 850 evo since I record to OWC 7200 hdd, he says The hundred dollar price difference can go to something else considering I'll just be the boot drive, applications, and my NI komplete drive... i use PT 10.3.1 32 bit and Live 32 bit so I think going to 64 bit apps with 16gb will be awesome compared to the 4gb I'm used too! Do you have links that show my model can handle 32gb? Someone else mentioned the 32gb ram for certain MBP models but it was vague so I'm not sure... |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 10, 2016 15:28:06 GMT -6
Thank you for all your help! The guy at micro center was saying to get the 850 evo due to the read and write speeds being so close to the 850 pro.. Aside from the five year warranty there wasn't much difference for the hundred dollar price increase.. Now i am kinda leaning towards the 850 eco since I record to OWC 7200 HD... he did say replacing one of the mechanicals in my OWC would help with sample libraries but most of that is on the main HD and again he said he still thinks 850 Evo will be plenty even with having sample libraries on the evo. IDK lol |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 10, 2016 15:35:16 GMT -6
Thank you for all your help! The guy at micro center was saying to get the 850 evo due to the read and write speeds being so close to the 850 pro.. Aside from the five year warranty there wasn't much difference for the hundred dollar price increase.. Now i am kinda leaning towards the 850 eco since I record to OWC 7200 HD... he did say replacing one of the mechanicals in my OWC would help with sample libraries but most of that is on the main HD and again he said he still thinks 850 Evo will be plenty even with having sample libraries on the evo. IDK lol Sorry, didn't even realize you linked the Pro and not the Evo. I generally purchase the Evo for machines, like your guy suggested. I use this drive in a Mac Pro at a studio that I sometimes record at. Show up, pop their disk out, pop mine in, plug in my iLok, and I'm in business.  |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 10, 2016 15:59:37 GMT -6
Awesome thank you so much, it looks like the 850 Evo will be the ticket I will also save $ in the process so this is very good... def looking forward to my 64 bit move... Ive been stable for so long having great performance I never cared... Now with UAD forcing my hand ( other things as well ) I feel like it's time! With Apple hosing its product lines IDK what will happen to the Mac Pro next release.. I will prob stick with what I got until the wheels fall off, then I will look at new Macs... thanks again jcoutu1 |
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Post by chasmanian on Nov 10, 2016 16:03:43 GMT -6
I am no expert.
just want to mention a couple thinks.
I recently got an 850 EVO 1 TB. no troubles with it.
I got it, to put piano sample libraries on.
I do not know much about it, but I have heard something about wanting to leave a certain percentage of the drive empty, instead of filling it up. (maybe 30 %. not sure now.)
thus I got the 1 TB, instead of 500 GB.
only saying, in an effort to help.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 20:36:02 GMT -6
Try getting a pre 2013 before they soldered the ram in. I think you can drop a pair of 16gb DDR3 Sticks in it and have it run at 32gb. I have a mid 2012 the ram is not soldered in.. ingot a great deal at micro center for $80 out the door for my 16gb crucial ram... the guy there kinda talked me into the 850 evo since I record to OWC 7200 hdd, he says The hundred dollar price difference can go to something else considering I'll just be the boot drive, applications, and my NI komplete drive... i use PT 10.3.1 32 bit and Live 32 bit so I think going to 64 bit apps with 16gb will be awesome compared to the 4gb I'm used too! Do you have links that show my model can handle 32gb? Someone else mentioned the 32gb ram for certain MBP models but it was vague so I'm not sure... Just be aware of this if you ever experience dropouts while recording drums. Use to have this problem a lot and when I swapped the hard drive it disappeared. support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201666 |
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Post by topshelfmg on Nov 11, 2016 14:49:13 GMT -6
Wow, didn't know this. Saw you could get it stock with 16GB RAM... figured you could at least upgrade it to 32GB. Even my old 2011 Mac Book Pro I used for years before upgrading, I was able to get to 16GB installed. I figured in 5+ years that wouldn't be the case though..
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 12, 2016 18:27:36 GMT -6
I was hoping that they would go to 32 - at least. My MBP is 4 years old (and still going fine) but when I am in the mood for virtual instruments the 16Gb max ram starts to be a problem so I was hoping that at my next MBP upgrade I would be able to get more memory. Pity. You going to the moon? |
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