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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 27, 2016 19:38:00 GMT -6
Gotta say, I'm pretty excited about this.
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Post by sean on Oct 27, 2016 21:50:19 GMT -6
Pretty cool! And the most mellow product video he's ever done. Between this and the Distressor plug-in I'm leaning towards the subscription.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 28, 2016 7:18:44 GMT -6
I've found myself using the stuff a lot more. I've always used VCC and since it's on every channel, I've found myself using it for less important duties. The cost for what you get is pretty impressive, so I'm gonna continue with it too. Btw - I use that free all buttons in "monster" plug on every drum bus. Love that thing.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 28, 2016 8:03:35 GMT -6
"I use that free all buttons in "monster" plug on every drum bus. Love that thing".
Gotta try that next time John, thanks.
Oh, why not put it on a bus and save the dsp? Do you set it differently for each drum?
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Post by swurveman on Oct 28, 2016 8:12:15 GMT -6
The best thing about Slate is being able to see all the FX in one window. I'm surprised Waves and UAD - or the DAW makers- haven't added this feature.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 28, 2016 8:32:52 GMT -6
That is cool feature swurveman.
Those verbs sounded good. I have the UAD EMT-140, Relab XL480, Bricasti impulses, Poor Plate, and a half dozen freebies that come with Logic and my Waves bundle, so I'm not sure this would matter much. Slate always says his new thing is the greatest thing ever, and on a few rare occasions, it is, but I'd wait and see. He mentioned 8 reverbs, does anyone know which ones, I could see the UAD 250, Lexicon 480, and only one other, a "6000", which I'm unfamiliar with.
It would truly be wonderful if this is in fact a step forward, but I wouldn't bet on it. Last week a friend put a nice and simple drum pattern with brushes on a track of mine. When he sent it back, I noticed a different sound to the reverb and asked him about it. It was full bodied, wider, noticeable, but the vocal in the center still was clean and intelligible. It was good to hear something different, and I felt it was just a little clearer than any of my reverbs. It was an inexpensive Lexicon hardware verb, one of those you get on eBay for $100.
So, I think somewhere down the line, I'm gonna get a Lexicon PCM 60 or 70. I feel that plugs still don't sound the same as the hardware they emulate, good as they may be in their own right.
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Post by joseph on Oct 28, 2016 9:06:26 GMT -6
6000 is TC electronic.
But Relab is doing a direct algorithmic reverse-engineered reproduction of VSS4 algo (the best one for early reflections), now in beta.
Personally I think algorithmically LX480 does sound exactly like a 480L, any practical difference could be achieved if you bus it through a console path.
I have Reverberate 2, and think the Bricasti studios do sound good on drums. In terms of early reflections, not as alive and tweakable as real thing, but even so I imagine this would be quite good as a flavor palette.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 28, 2016 9:46:00 GMT -6
"I use that free all buttons in "monster" plug on every drum bus. Love that thing". Gotta try that next time John, thanks. Oh, why not put it on a bus and save the dsp? Do you set it differently for each drum? That's what I do. One on the drumbus. Start with the "Smasher" preset and then pull down the mix to taste. Usually HP the kick. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 28, 2016 10:35:07 GMT -6
Just tried the All Buttons on the Waves CLA76 on a stereo drum track, and it livened it up, and widened it a little. Pretty cool, thanks.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 28, 2016 10:53:30 GMT -6
Just tried the All Buttons on the Waves CLA76 on a stereo drum track, and it livened it up, and widened it a little. Pretty cool, thanks. Try slamming the input attack slowest, release fastest and then run that in parallel. Much goodness. I do like the ability to exclude the kick with the HP option though. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 28, 2016 12:51:17 GMT -6
Wow. The Bricasti stuff is really nice
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Post by ChaseUTB on Oct 28, 2016 14:08:46 GMT -6
Wow. The Bricasti stuff is really nice Would love to hear some samples with your awesome vox |
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Post by swurveman on Oct 28, 2016 14:59:30 GMT -6
Here's a Drum Bus and bass send to the Slate plug and to my Bricasti. Both "Studio A". https%3A//soundcloud.com/songflowerrecording/bricasti-drumshttps%3A//soundcloud.com/songflowerrecording/slate-bricasti-drums2 |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 28, 2016 16:44:33 GMT -6
Great job swurveman, thanks.
I'l take the Bricasti please.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 28, 2016 16:51:07 GMT -6
It would literally take 21 years of paying for the plug to equal paying for a new hardware Bricasti.
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Post by joseph on Oct 28, 2016 16:55:05 GMT -6
Bricasti has more impact, and I hear more going on in terms of stereo field propagation, but at least the plug has similar sound vibe. Not bad at all.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 28, 2016 17:11:58 GMT -6
Just listened again, the Bricasti sounds like it's from a David Bowie album, the Slate sounds anemic. I wish it was otherwise, but that wouldn't convince me to buy their reverb since I already have some good ones.
If I had no reverb's, the Slate would be a good place to start because of the choices it gives you. I'm sure there are at least a few really good sounds tucked away in there.
I wonder if they got the 480 from their association with Relab.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 8:31:25 GMT -6
Night and Day!
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Post by donr on Oct 30, 2016 23:22:16 GMT -6
They sound different, the Slate was less complex, but the Slate sound was quite musical.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 31, 2016 8:28:06 GMT -6
Again...you could have the slate plug for 21 years before paying $3800. Absolutely 0.000 % of people that are buying albums will know he difference.
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Post by jazznoise on Oct 31, 2016 9:03:09 GMT -6
Again...you could have the slate plug for 21 years before paying $3800. Absolutely 0.000 % of people that are buying albums will know he difference. Depends on the power cables they use. I think the Bricasti has a lot more of the early reflections and an almost percussive "slap" to the start of the reverb that's great. Slate's is a little more even - which is cool, and probably took a lot of time to do, but it's less exciting. |
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Post by jimwilliams on Oct 31, 2016 9:43:18 GMT -6
Rent a real one and you will never go back.
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Post by drbill on Oct 31, 2016 10:03:23 GMT -6
Again...you could have the slate plug for 21 years before paying $3800. Absolutely 0.000 % of people that are buying albums will know he difference. Yeah, no doubt. Same with that 251, eh???  The reality is we do this for OURSELVES and hope the little things will resonate with others. |
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Post by swurveman on Oct 31, 2016 10:47:09 GMT -6
Hearing the difference of the Bricasti hardware made me wonder about real plates and a real 480, 250 and other legendary verbs and FX. I think we live in a time of close access, but not total, to the sound of those legendary units.
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 31, 2016 11:28:13 GMT -6
Again...you could have the slate plug for 21 years before paying $3800. Absolutely 0.000 % of people that are buying albums will know he difference. Yeah, no doubt. Same with that 251, eh??? The reality is we do this for OURSELVES and hope the little things will resonate with others. A mic is a much different thing compared to verb. |
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The reality is we do this for OURSELVES and hope the little things will resonate with others.