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Post by jazznoise on Nov 26, 2013 19:50:31 GMT -6
So recently on my last few projects I've been setting up my standard 1 or 2 reverbs. Now a problem I was having is the pre-delay for my short reverb might push back my drums the way I wanted to, but it also swallows up my guitar sound.
What I started doing was setting up tracks in Reaper where the signal went through a delay plugin, with the dry signal going out to the mains unaffected but the send being delayed by a certain amount. This means I can sort of push instruments around a space a bit better without needing a dozen reverb busses and I can even do a little EQ'ing to the delay'd signal depending on the vst I use.
I'm basically just asking does anyone else do something like this or have any other reverb/delay tricks that might be a little obscure, but cool?
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Post by tonycamphd on Nov 26, 2013 20:01:40 GMT -6
i just logged on and saw this, the first thing that came to mind is that you didn't mention eqing your verb, i eq the heck out of it, it's so undefined as compared to a source, you can twist it good and make space for that guitar by carving some holes? hope this helps T also, i found this to be a really good article on use of verbs/delays www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul08/articles/reverb1.htm
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Post by jazznoise on Nov 27, 2013 6:22:52 GMT -6
Mmm, I obviously would also EQ my reverb and, as I said, sometimes EQ sends too. But it doesn't quiet give the sensation of depth I'd like, though it does help clear up a mix!
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Post by henge on Nov 27, 2013 7:20:00 GMT -6
Like Tony, I like to eq my sends as well. Gives a lot of control and carves space.
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Post by Ward on Nov 27, 2013 20:29:24 GMT -6
When it comes to reverbs and delays, often times, less is more. It's a common habit to get into to use too much space effects and end up washing out your mixes. Often times, you'll notice you've used too much of them when you listen to your mixes with fresh ears - especially on earbuds, computer speakers or in your car. We're no longer in the 80s where the big reverb sound is more important than the program material, but sometimes we forget this when we love the sound of the effect.
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Post by jazznoise on Nov 27, 2013 21:24:40 GMT -6
Well that's fair enough, but it doesn't make how you set up the effect any less important. Gated reverb will still sound how it does, for better or worse.
Playing a bit of amateur brass I've found myself using surprising amounts of reverb. On electric guitar I tend to play dense, distorted stuff so it's extremely dry. Generally mic placement is the most reverb they will get. None the less, those spacial cues matter.
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