Country singer killed in Nashville bar shooting

Although I admit if gun control laws took all the guns, gun control laws would work. But it never will. Guns will ALWAYS be available on the black market to criminals. Criminals don't register their guns fellas. Gun control will never work. Citizens should probably be trained to use weapons to defend themselves. Speaking of which, it's still perfectly legal for any American who is not a felon to walk down the center of main street in any city with a gun on their hip. No one can convince me that the dumb ass who is ready to rob a convenient store wouldn't think twice if he knew the people running the store was packing and ready to defend themselves.

A last not (too) serious sidenote from me:
I guess, criminals all over the world are using guns, and preferably illegal guns of course.
This said, I always have a good laugh on some specialties of Great Britain.
One is: standard policemen don't wear guns.
It still seems to work for them, traditionally. Tough somehow.
Unthinkable in most countries worldwide.
On the other hand, they installed 4.2 billion surveillance cameras in the last years throghout their country, which did not get any serious results. They only resolve 1 crime per 1000 cameras, a good laugh.
Always interesting, how different countries try to deal with crime, which nowadays knows no borders....

8-)Switzerland has a clever concept to achieve the high income and social standards.
Earning money with, ehem, "tax-free" income of other countries. They are pretty good at it.

>Black Metal
>Not glorifying Satan
>Imblyign Norwegian Black Metal music scene hasn't had murders, church burnings etc.
>ISHYGDDT

You can't blame imagery of violence because historically there's no evidence of any society that didn't. America also constantly sexualizes women, possibly the most prolifically too, but is yet not the worst place in the world for Rape or any other gender specific crimes.

I know it's a super lefty European thing to say, but class does mean everything. Financial instability and poverty affect mental health, physical health and family life. Even some extremely nice guys I meet from "ghetto" backgrounds (i.e the roughest housing areas in the country) are very different, and the first thing you notice is the amount of violence in their speech and their body language.

When mayor Bloomberg first proposed banning cigarettes from public spaces, he was besieged with pushback from all sides. Restaurants and bar owners bitterly contested it, saying it would destroy their businesses. What actually happened? More people went to the bars and restaurants than ever before. Now they could eat a meal in peace, without needing to send their clothes to the dry cleaners afterwards. Talk about "smoked salmon", the last time when smoking was legal in restaurants here my food was so covered with so much smoke, I could taste it.

My point is that using the subterfuge of "freedom" to allow harmful things to continue because some people make huge profits from it hurts all of us. Despite the hysteria created by wing nuts in the media, in all the debates, no one ever suggested taking guns away from ordinary citizens, they simply wanted a rational background check, so some mentally disturbed lowlife idiot with a rap sheet longer than your arm couldn't walk into a convention and walk out with six rifles and two handguns.

No matter how much of an equalizer it might seem to be, turning the US back into the wild wild west is not the answer. I support citizens right to own firearms, except I also support rational licensing.

Case in point, my closest friend is the president a a rifle association upstate NY. NY passed some very progressive gun control laws. No one "came for his guns". They still enjoy all the freedom to own firearms they've ever had, they're just a little safer in general now. It's not a fix, but a step in the right direction.

I usually find myself aligned with many of Christ's teaching's and also many Buddhist concepts and Hindu ideas. I guarantee you, Christ would not advocate arming the populace. We have to find better solutions. 

Thanks cowboy, I know you are always trying to come from a good and reasonable place too, even if issues are complicated..

Thanks Henge. It will take a sizable movement to cage things, but it can be done.

That's about degree, ( size of the magazine, I believe), it doesn't take away the rights of someone to have a firearm in his or her home, just not an AK47. So, unless someone's expecting the army to attack them, and feels the need for a machine gun, for all practical purposes of using a fire arm, nothing's really changed.

My friend has a handgun and a shotgun in his NYC apartment, and he's not breaking any law.

More than 5 rounds outlaws just about every revolver out there. What does he own, a musket pistol?