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Post by ttt on Sept 29, 2016 18:29:50 GMT -6
How does 3u GZ251tube or fet compare to Bock 241 which has just been discontinued - I was considering Bock 241 to compliment my Beezneez Arabella(u47/m49), Mahalia (u67) & Samar AL39 vocal mics, and am now left with these mics to consider; Josephson c 715 or c716, or maybe Blue bottle - however if the 3u GZ251 overall sound quality isn't noticeably far below the Beezneez mics I already have, I would consider it to plug the gap ( C12/251) in mic types I have in the small vocal mic section of my locker
Any thoughts or suggestions appreciated.
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Post by ericn on Sept 29, 2016 18:47:37 GMT -6
Don't know about the 3U but go listen to the Clips of the Upton the modded CV4 and ADK against Jeff's 251 "Dolly" as in Parton face and Sol's 250 in the 251 shootout , Then have a Talk with our own Shannon Rhodes of Mic Rehab!
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Post by chasmanian on Sept 29, 2016 19:13:10 GMT -6
what Eric said.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 29, 2016 19:28:35 GMT -6
Yeah, you could get the Upton for what you would have paid for he 241 or a modded cv4 for around $2k
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Post by aremos on Sept 29, 2016 19:50:15 GMT -6
Everything that's been stated.
But from personal use, in regards to what you're considering, the Josephson C716.
The C715 is a little darker & requires a lot of gain but also a possibility. But since you're looking for a 251 sound, the 716.
I'm impressed with what I've heard here from the Upton!
But we all know that microphones have to be personally heard & in one's environment.
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Post by ericn on Sept 29, 2016 19:51:58 GMT -6
TTT
Welcome to the party we call RGO! If your in the states, can swing it right now and have your heart set on a 241 give Brad Lundey at Transamerican Audio a call , use my name in vain and see if Brad has one.
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Post by hadaja on Sept 29, 2016 22:45:59 GMT -6
I was thinking I might be selling my Dany Bouchard C12/251 prototype if your interested. As I got another custom made Beesneez 251 which I think sounds a little better for my voice.
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Post by chasmanian on Sept 30, 2016 4:56:37 GMT -6
in my experience, all Rhoades lead to Shannon.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 30, 2016 9:32:14 GMT -6
Or combine the Upton with Shannon...still cheaper than a Bock
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Post by ericn on Sept 30, 2016 9:54:19 GMT -6
Or combine the Upton with Shannon...still cheaper than a Bock At this point I can't look at a new condenser mic without thinking "But what could Shannon do with this thing?" I'll bet Shannon knows what more of the individual mics in Nashville studios sound like than anybody ! Add the fact that he can tune just about anything to get it where you want it ! Well the smart move would be to talk to Shannon before you buy, Talk budget what you really want what's the best route to get there! I have said it before if I knew Shannon in my gear pimp days life would have been so much easier! |
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Post by guitfiddler on Sept 30, 2016 11:15:42 GMT -6
Or combine the Upton with Shannon...still cheaper than a Bock Have you ever sang into a Bock? I was just curious |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 30, 2016 11:39:03 GMT -6
Or combine the Upton with Shannon...still cheaper than a Bock Have you ever sang into a Bock? I was just curious Several times...great mics. |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Sept 30, 2016 17:00:13 GMT -6
Or combine the Upton with Shannon...still cheaper than a Bock Bock 241 streeted for $3200-3500, there is no way you can get an Upton and a mic rehab makeover for that! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 30, 2016 17:02:35 GMT -6
And the Bock 241 was cardioid only so not really a 251. I believe the bock 251 is like $4800 or something.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 30, 2016 17:03:47 GMT -6
Sorry. $5400. You can definitely get the Upton and Shannon for cheaper than that. Or just buy one of Shannon's 251s.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Sept 30, 2016 17:53:09 GMT -6
And the Bock 241 was cardioid only so not really a 251. I believe the bock 251 is like $4800 or something. When did the OP say a bock 251? In the original post he was asking if a 3u audio mic was comparable to a Bock 241. The bock 241 msrp = $3650. The 3u Audio is $600 I believe. Oh yeah  an Upton 251 / Mic Rehab 251 is not really a ELA M 251 either  ( don't kill me please Bock 251 I think is $5600, you could get a lot of Upton / MicRehab work for that! Edit: Bock's 251 has been praised by many but it's costly compared to Flea and Upton. Edit 2: Upton 251 $4595 |
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Post by rowmat on Oct 1, 2016 13:39:40 GMT -6
I recently bought a used Bock 251 for $3800 USD
After spending a few weeks with it I can say it's fantastic.
Stick it through a twin servo and be amazed!
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Post by ragan on Oct 1, 2016 13:56:05 GMT -6
And the Bock 241 was cardioid only so not really a 251. I believe the bock 251 is like $4800 or something. When did the OP say a bock 251? In the original post he was asking if a 3u audio mic was comparable to a Bock 241. The bock 241 msrp = $3650. The 3u Audio is $600 I believe. Oh yeah an Upton 251 / Mic Rehab 251 is not really a ELA M 251 either ( don't kill me please Bock 251 I think is $5600, you could get a lot of Upton / MicRehab work for that! Edit: Bock's 251 has been praised by many but it's costly compared to Flea and Upton. Edit 2: Upton 251 $4595 OP is talking about the 3U 251 tube (not FET) which I think is more like $1k or $1200. Granted, still small change compared to the high dollar boutique stuff, but worth pointing out. |
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Post by aremos on Oct 1, 2016 20:35:47 GMT -6
Edit: Bock's 251 has been praised by many but it's costly compared to Flea and Upton. Edit 2: Upton 251 $4595 The FleA 47/49 stuff sounds very good but their 12, at least the one I was given to sample, left a lot to be desired. It could have been a pre-Campbell one but the US distributor couldn't verify what capsule it had in it. |
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Post by rowmat on Oct 1, 2016 20:57:24 GMT -6
Edit: Bock's 251 has been praised by many but it's costly compared to Flea and Upton. Edit 2: Upton 251 $4595 The FleA 47/49 stuff sounds very good but their 12, at least the one I was given to sample, left a lot to be desired. It could have been a pre-Campbell one but the US distributor couldn't verify what capsule it had in it. I can vouch for the Flea 47. I've been trying to find a Flea 49 to audition but there's none around here AFAIK. |
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Post by joseph on Oct 1, 2016 20:58:17 GMT -6
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Post by guitfiddler on Nov 6, 2016 18:39:14 GMT -6
I recently bought a used Bock 251 for $3800 USD After spending a few weeks with it I can say it's fantastic. Stick it through a twin servo and be amazed! One of my favorites...however I might have a new favorite! |
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Post by rowmat on Nov 6, 2016 19:14:41 GMT -6
I recently bought a used Bock 251 for $3800 USD After spending a few weeks with it I can say it's fantastic. Stick it through a twin servo and be amazed! One of my favorites...however I might have a new favorite! Do tell! |
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Post by indiehouse on Nov 6, 2016 19:32:49 GMT -6
Man, I'm so stoked to get my 251 from Shannon! He says its close to being ready.
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Post by indiehouse on Nov 6, 2016 19:34:15 GMT -6
Oh, and don't let the 3U prices fool you. These are quality sounding mics, no doubt. I own a few.
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an Upton 251 / Mic Rehab 251 is not really a ELA M 251 either 
