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Post by tonycamphd on Nov 24, 2013 10:56:17 GMT -6
drummer ever....Bernard Purdie, the laid back, 1/2 time groove king is just too cool..
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Post by watchtower on Nov 25, 2013 8:40:59 GMT -6
I love that drum production. Snare, kick. How? Any tips?
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Post by svart on Nov 25, 2013 9:58:50 GMT -6
I love that drum production. Snare, kick. How? Any tips? when they isolate it, it's pretty clear that it's just a few close mics and the drums are tuned very well. Very tight and dry snare, somewhat tight but slightly muffled kick. Close mics on the cymbals because he's not bashing them. The room ambiance is pretty dry too. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Nov 25, 2013 10:21:48 GMT -6
I love that drum production. Snare, kick. How? Any tips? my take is this, 1st drummer must kill, and mix himself with his playing, supremely tuned drums(then damp the heads to dry em up), Glynn Johns variant on the over heads low(i think this is where most of the mic'd sound comes from), hi hat mic, and others are mostly safety mics (don't think using them much though), dry room, and a fast attack on a classic fet compressor to knock off the leading edge. these guys were jazz guys at heart, the tuning of the drums and overheads show that, the only thing that varies from the old school jazz drum sound is the muffling taped to the drums, Bernard is generally an old school open tuning guy. In order to maintain the rebound that is so important to his ghosty/swingy feel, i can all but guarantee he tunes his drums the same every time, just the muffling was taped on here. hope this helps, might be missing something? but i'd love to hear what others think also |
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Post by svart on Nov 25, 2013 10:27:19 GMT -6
well, in the video you can see some of the close mics over the cymbals.. and the mix is waaay too dry to be mostly room mics..
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Post by tonycamphd on Nov 25, 2013 10:38:55 GMT -6
well, in the video you can see some of the close mics over the cymbals.. and the mix is waaay too dry to be mostly room mics.. who said anything about room mics? The 414's are set up(glynn johns VARIANT) one over the snare hi hat, and the other is off the floor tom.. both pretty close, then you add snare and kick(all part of the glynn johns tech), unless i saw it wrong? i'll look again.. mehhh.. the floor tom 414 pattern is facing down, so ?? i'm wrong about GJ.. Still think those low 414's are mostly responsible for that sound though... |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 25, 2013 11:31:45 GMT -6
My friend Tom Anthony was one of the top jingle producers, ever. He worked with Bernard all the time, and still speaks of him in reverent tones. I believe he left the hard core engineering duties to the engineers, but I'll ask him next time we're together if there was anything special about the way Purdie's drum mics were set up.
I think that guy would have sounded great playing pizza cartons through an SM58.
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Post by Ward on Nov 25, 2013 12:45:47 GMT -6
I think that guy would have sounded great playing pizza cartons through an SM58. A lot of drum recordings end up sounding like that anyhow |
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Post by henge on Nov 25, 2013 13:48:13 GMT -6
I love that drum production. Snare, kick. How? Any tips? my take is this, 1st drummer must kill, and mix himself with his playing, supremely tuned drums(then damp the heads to dry em up) For sure. I love drummers that mix themselves. That are aware of dynamics within the kit. Heaven. Edit: Just watched the vid. Man that is some fierce groove!! |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 26, 2013 12:09:44 GMT -6
Not the same, but this is jamming pretty hard.
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