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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 18, 2013 17:42:35 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 18, 2013 18:12:42 GMT -6
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Post by matt on Nov 18, 2013 18:17:32 GMT -6
No more $$$$ to UA until aax. It's very simple for me - I can't go back to PT10. Can't do it.
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Post by nobtwiddler on Nov 18, 2013 18:26:21 GMT -6
Boy, they really make that look good, and I'm sure it's great (for what it is?) (By the way did Allen say the plug in was great? Or was he just talking about the original Fairchild being the holy grail??? But let's remember. There's the originals, (that are the real deal,) and there's the emulations.
I'm so done with the dumbing down of the audio industry at large...
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 18, 2013 19:19:43 GMT -6
Well, yeah...I hear you...but I don't have $30,000 laying around. Plus, I've been using the MkII LA2A's and 1176's and really, really digging them. There's still a huge difference between the punch you can get mixing with a room full of hardware and a console and ITB, though. As I've mentioned before, I liquidated an extra UAD-2 Quad and all of my plugins (kept a duo), but found that since I haven't upgraded my authorization to a newer UAD version, I'm still able to...ahem...use all of the aforementioned plugs. So, it was going to take a really good plug to make me re-buy a lot of the plugs and upgrade. This one is really making me think twice.
But then again, no plugin compressor is going to make everything sound the tits. Maybe I should just save up for a pair of hardware something. Plugs are just so damn convenient...
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Nov 18, 2013 20:25:41 GMT -6
I tried this one already. It's good like the other MKII's. Worth checking out JK.
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Post by tonycamphd on Nov 18, 2013 21:43:44 GMT -6
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 18, 2013 23:13:33 GMT -6
The UAD LA2 plug -in, (mk. II version) is so good for lead vocals, I can't imagine a plug improving on it. I think I'll hold off on this until I see what it can do that the UAD 1176, the LA2 collection and the Slate VBC can't.
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Post by levon on Nov 19, 2013 0:55:09 GMT -6
Unfortunately, 10.6 is no longer officially supported on a Mac, although it seems to run without problems. Anybody tried it?
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Post by levon on Nov 19, 2013 0:58:36 GMT -6
Tony, I wish I was handy with a soldering iron, but, alas, I'm totally useless. I couldn't even solder a cable . I'm definitely not paying for a real Fairchild, but I'm still on the lookout for a good old Urei 1176 Rev. D.
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Post by tonycamphd on Nov 19, 2013 1:26:09 GMT -6
Tony, I wish I was handy with a soldering iron, but, alas, I'm totally useless. I couldn't even solder a cable . I'm definitely not paying for a real Fairchild, but I'm still on the lookout for a good old Urei 1176 Rev. D. Hi levon, aren't we all 8) good luck with your hunt buddy
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Post by levon on Nov 19, 2013 4:31:39 GMT -6
Tony, I wish I was handy with a soldering iron, but, alas, I'm totally useless. I couldn't even solder a cable . I'm definitely not paying for a real Fairchild, but I'm still on the lookout for a good old Urei 1176 Rev. D. Hi levon, aren't we all 8) good luck with your hunt buddy Thanks Tony, I rented one for the mix of my last album, it sounded amazing on my vocals. Unfortunately, the guy didn't want to sell it.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 19, 2013 9:09:01 GMT -6
The UAD LA2 plugs have 3 iterations of the LA2, and they're all superb, also, UAD includes a couple of different model 1176's with their emulations. The Slate VBC has an SSL style compressor tweaked with some Neve parts, a Focusrite Red, and a hybrid MU compressor. So, I have all these choices available now. I'm not inexperienced as a musician, recording artist or producer, but am still fairly new to the engineering side of it all. I had a small home studio in the late 80's, 8 Tk. & 2 tk tape, a Neumann mic, lexicon verb and delay, DBX compressor and a Ramsa board. It was quite minimalist in a way, but I used them on almost everything, and it sounded good enough to make it to broadcast of dozens of commercials I produced at home. (I did the bigger jobs in first class studios).
So, now there's a Fairchild emulation, and I gather a Fairchild is the holy grail of compressors, tubes and all. I've barely got my head wrapped around the plugs I do have, so I certainly won't be rushing in to buy another one. Cowboy has posted some mixes using the Fairchild, and then using his Sta-Level. When listening by itself, the Fairchild track sounds really good, (no doubt partly due to cowboy's general high quality level), but to me, the Sta-Level was in another league. Now, if I had no compressor plug-ins, it would be worth exploring these and perhaps picking a favorite, if I could afford only one. But at $300, I feel something like this is a luxury, and you'd have to absolutely love it and find it a must have for it to be worth bothering with.
Because I'm on a schoolteacher's budget, I look at the limited funds available for any new audio product from an overview. Which thing gets me the most improvement for the money. Having so many compressors already, the only thing I could see really making much difference, would be to get a real one. $300, could go a long way toward a $400-$600 used UAD satellite, or a Cascade Vin-Jet ribbon mic, a new Toontrack drum kit, a capsule upgrade to my Blackspade U17, a cheap 12 string guitar, or toward a better guitar amp, if I sell the one I have.
After jumping in the deep digital waters 18 months back, I'm getting my bearings now, and it's gonna take something more bad ass than another compressor emulation to drag those dollars out of my wallet. Slow down boys, take your time with these new plugs. I sure as hell don't need another $300 plug I don't use much after having it for a while.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 19, 2013 10:58:28 GMT -6
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 19, 2013 13:05:55 GMT -6
Yeah.
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Post by LesC on Nov 19, 2013 15:25:10 GMT -6
I think it's "only" $149.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 19, 2013 15:29:22 GMT -6
That 'a for the cross grade, those who don't already have the Fairchild pay $299.
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Post by LesC on Nov 20, 2013 11:50:42 GMT -6
Sorry, you're right. When I went to their website I only saw the $149, I guess that's because I was logged in.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 20, 2013 14:03:47 GMT -6
At $149, I'd buy it., as I have a $50 coupon for a few weeks.
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Post by popmann on Nov 20, 2013 16:35:04 GMT -6
Demo the IK version while you have the UA demo period.
While you're at it, compare their Pultec (make sure to turnthe Oversampling ON). And their "Opto" (not the 2a) on bass.
You can usually buy all three for the price or less than the UA.
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